In this interview, Serge Benhayon shares the esoteric and energetic understandings of the spirit and soul and how they relate to illness and disease and healing. This broadens the whole sphere of discussion on illness, disease and healing, far beyond what is currently accepted in conventional medicine to include the spiritual dimension and its role in illness manifestation and healing.
Have a cup of tea, sit back and enjoy an enlightening exploration into the subject, that if accepted, expands and evolves our understanding of the human condition, illness, disease and healing.
Disclaimer:
The topics discussed in this interview go beyond what is currently known, accepted and practiced in the evidence based paradigm of Conventional or Western Medicine and are based on the different paradigm of Esoteric Medicine, that is inclusive of religion, philosophy and science and fundamentally based on the understanding that everything is energy. It is for the listener to discern whether what is shared, is true or could possibly be true or not.
Eunice Minford is a Consultant General Surgeon who practices surgery according to the paradigm of conventional evidence based medicine.
She has found personal benefit to her health and wellbeing by applying the understandings of Esoteric Medicine and Esoteric Philosophy in her own life. She speaks here from personal experience and NOT on behalf of the medical profession or evidence based medicine as it is currently understood.
This interview is NOT a substitute for medical advice and if you have any concerns about your health you should see your GP.
Medicine and Serge Benhayon 
In my view we too often tend to adopt a lazy relationship with finding the ’cause’ to things. As soon as we establish that e.g. there is a chemical factor and whenever we get a particular symptom, a chemical imbalance has happened first, we are often content to then ascribe the chemical imbalance as the ’cause’ of the symptom.
But why don’t go further and ask why was the chemical imbalance there in the first place, and keep taking it deeper? Even if we want to ascribe something to genes, are we open to consider that in this Universe that has so much order and precision (although some choose to see random in it too), the there could also be a cause behind the genes? Most of us are far too quick to assume we have all the answers.
Once you understand the difference between spirit and Soul and the significance of this awareness and our relationship with them on every aspect of human life, you realise the extent to which humanity is choosing to hold on to blind spots about the actual causes of the ills and issues we are facing.
I understand my spirit to be a wayward being that loves being an individual and all that that entails, and that my soul knows its place in the whole and works in line with this.
With this discussion it is very clear that illness and disease is not punishment and never has been, but a correction, and adjustment, a clearing and an opportunity to be able to connect to and feel who we are, and an opportunity to connect to the love that we are and the love that is in our life.
Today I can’t understand how we can live life if we don’t embrace and understand the spirit and soul.
I agree completely. It is predictable If we keep choosing to be blind to the crucial difference between the two and how this impacts everything even our thoughts, that we would have so many issues and the world we create would be in the mess that it is.
There are so many things that remain a riddle as to the why and how of ill health. As far as I am concerned simply labelling a condition, finding the symptoms that tend to go with it and being able to log the related systems and the pattern of deterioration, does not constitute an understanding of how and why the situation has arisen. Nor is claiming a virus or a gene is the cause a conclusive explanation, since it is well known that the presence or absence of these never guarantees a particular outcome.
I find Serge Benhayon’s explanation so very useful and expansive. It is high time that those who profess their intention is advancing medicine and science, broadened their view and considered what is presented here – information that is ironically not new, but very ancient.
One of the most important understandings we can have in life is that there is spirit and there is soul. One is about us knowing who we are and they other is about delaying that knowing.
I agree Jennifer, ‘One of the most important understandings we can have in life is that there is spirit and there is soul.’ This is a fundamental of life that we have ignored for ions. It’s like ignoring that we need to breathe. I wasn’t aware that the soul and spirit were two different things entirely until I came across the teachings of The Ageless Wisdom. Once explained life suddenly made a whole lot of sense!
I was the same Rachel. I had certainly heard of both but though that they were the same thing. I though the 2 words were interchangeable. I am so pleased that this belief has been corrected for me.
I love this video – It brings such a bigger picture to medicine and answers so many questions.
It certainly was a deep unsettlement that I was wanting to avoid but deep down I knew it was there. So to be able to gain clarity with the teachings of what Serge Benhayon presents everything started to make so much more sense. From the first moment I met Serge every cell and particle in my body knew it was truth and from there have worked on arresting what is not of my divine make up.
One of the key understandings is that spirit and soul exist and they are not the same. If both of these are true, then it opens up a vast area of further understanding for us.
We are all big on gadgets and technology, most of us have cars and other finely-tuned items. We are all familiar that if we run the items contra to how they are designed to run we are in trouble.
What if we have been running contra to our own true nature, and out of sync with the whole Universe that supports us? And what if the escalating issues we have with our health, in our personal, societal and worldwide level is because of our refusal to stop and heed the reflections we are offered?
Addressing our Spirit and Soul as part of the healing process completes the missing piece in Western Medicine.
This explains our behaviours and allows me to better understand what is behind our so called thinking and choices.
I agree HM, this understanding is crucial to be able to change behaviour which is leading to us being unwell in ourselves and in life.
For many years I considered religion as a mixture of dictated dogma and disjointed fiction, most of which did not make sense. The words spirit and Soul seemed to be owned by religion so they were easily dismissed as nothing of any significance to my daily life. I wonder how much this gets in the way of people’s openness to listen and consider what is being presented here to start with.
Golnaz, agreed. There are many moments where I can catch myself with these words in the consciousness of one who has rejected mainstream religion. I rejected Catholicism as a teenager and threw the baby out with the bath water – I simply couldn’t filter those words in any way that made sense to me, so coloured were they by my experiences of the church. Serge Benhayon not only grounded the meaning of those words for me in a way that made simple sense, that awareness exponentially grew as I began to observe more closely how it felt when I was connected to soul – a quiet, still, but deeply expansive and beholding sensation, compared to when I operate from the spirit – a much more closed, centric form of expression – a tightness and a tension born of an investment or anxiety that just wants to get noticed or heard – simply for self.
The understanding of our spirit and our soul and the choices we make from this is fundamental to the truth of illness and disease and the way we can heal ourselves and live in connection to our body lovingly.
The more I develop and deepen a loving relationship with self in my every day the more the spirit is being exposed. To expose the spirit in my movements is something to be appreciated and celebrated for I am giving myself an opportunity to stop its momentum, to live in harmony with my body, the essence of who I am and the universe.
Again and again I am astounded by how obstinately humanity chooses to hold on to some very significant blind-spots. One such area is spirit and Soul and how our relationship with them impacts every single aspect of our life.
What Serge Benhayon offers about illness and disease not being a punishment but an offering to us to ask is there another way, is so important. This stop and way of questioning ourselves opens us up to the possibility that not only there is more but that we are more and that they way we have been living is not allowing us to be aware of this.
I agree. It also shows a way out of illness and disease.
And, in addition, what is the role of love in illness, disease and healing?
Some may react and find this presentation very confronting. The truth is is that we do need to get very serious and real with our current situation as a species as Serge wisely says. Ignoring the real rot within society as many of us have been for a long time is also in itself a form of illness and disease
When we live from the fact that we have both a spirit and soul- it makes sense that when we align to an energy that is not loving – our soul calls in an adjustment. Illness and disease is actually a healing to the body of what needs to come out.
We are so willing to keep finding things that we can point at and make the cause of our illness, disease and issues in life. Yet when it is suggested we look closer to home, most of us seem to run a mile.
Yes, and after we ran a mile we are no further away from the problem as it ran with us.
Ha ha that is so true and although it is tragic, it is also such a funny caricature of how most of us live our life.
This philosophical presentation may well be dismissed as hocus-pocus by many, but like many truths that were dismissed in their time, they were found to be spot on and accurate in later generations. This may take a long time before we are prepared to really look at what is being shared here on a wider scale.
Being honest about whether the spirit or soul is impulsing you at this moment is a crucial first step to truly evolving.
Illness, disease and the situation of how we are all living world wide is exposed beautifully for all mankind with the medicine of understanding our spirit and our soul as part of health, well being and our harmony within.
It is so clear to me that we are in trouble; that humanity is not doing well and that this is because we do not have a truly well rounded understanding of who we are and what is behind the behaviors we know are not serving us.
Serge offers a perspective directly from the Ageless wisdom that brings a great understanding to what is going on for us and how we could live in a more loving and harmonious way.
Nothing else has put it all together or offered truly effective answers to our ongoing issues but I find that when I apply this understanding of spirit and soul to myself, my life and to the world it all makes simple, practical sense and I can see the way out of all the struggle and suffering we create when surviving in ignorance of who we are and how these different aspects of ourselves behave and work.
We are getting sicker and not just because of an ageing population. Each new generation puts weight on faster than the previous generation and gets more cancers as just two examples.
This is so true and knocks out the “we’re living longer therefore more illnesses crop up” argument. If that’s the case then why do we now have people as early as 40s experiencing dementia?
The world has never been able to clearly explain the crazy way we abuse and mistreat ourselves. This presentation of the fact of our Spirit and Soul is the only one I have heard that makes sense. And if our spirit resists responsibility it makes sense that it prefers to deny it even exists – hence the human history we see.
Prior to hearing Serge Benhayon speak about Spirit and Soul, and the energetic aspect of life we seem to by and large ignore, I was getting more and more frustrated with how nonsensical our world and human behaviour was. My whole body made a sigh of relief when it all started to make sense and I started to understand my part and my responsibility in the whole scenario.
Listening to a radio programme this week on mental health and illness I felt that if psychiatrists knew about the spirit their treatments would have so much more understanding of the patients – as would patients themselves – knowing illness is not who they truly are.
I love how Serge does not hold back on presenting the truth, but equally he is very understanding of the reasons why most are not that open to approaching medicine and wellbeing in the way he is presenting which is often because of the immense amount of lies and rubbish that are out there which not only cloud the water but plant seeds of doubt which deter us from the truth
To get that illness and disease stems from our emotions, ways of behaving and the fact that it doesn’t randomly drop from the sky; that it is not a question of bad luck; is huge. It means that we have to start being more responsible for our own health via the choices we make.
So true Rachel – and taking back responsibility for our health,rather than blame and bad luck for our ill health can reduce the chance of recurrence too. A great preventative measure. .
This interview is the much needed expansion of our relationship with and understanding of medicine. When conventional medicine embraces esoteric medicine we will be on our way to true healing.
Roll on that day. The return of the embracing of esoteric medicine by conventional medicine (as ironically esoteric medicine is the original roots of medicine that conventional medicine was born out of) will offer humanity not just greater health, but a far deeper awareness, understanding and relationship with all aspects of our lives.
Spirit and Soul have a far greater play in life than we care to see.
If out-of-body experiences are possible, would there be any other way to interpret such evidence?
Spirit, soul, love, truth, harmony, joy – there just may be a connection here.
The Ancient Wisdom teachings about spirit and Soul are a must if we really want to understand and solve our health care crises worldwide and not go bankrupt over the ever-escalating rates of illness and disease. We need answers and not more solutions, policies and fix-it approaches.
Pure gold Gabriele. So very true.
It is really worthwhile knowing the difference between spirit and Soul and being able to discern when we are under the influence of one or the other, as well as how this impacts the body. Of course like everything else there is no guarantee that we will overnight cease everything that is harmful and only embrace what is useful and supportive, but it is a great starting point.
For me understanding that there is both a spirit and a soul supports me immensely to understand life. It also supports me to look at myself and my own behaviour and to keep it super simple. I am able to look at everything that I do, say and think and know who has set it in motion, my spirit or my soul. My spirit has the intention to constantly drive a make believe wedge between me and others and my soul is constantly looking to remind me that there is no gap between me and another.
It fits that if a disease is born before the physical symptoms then the treatment should also be about what happens before the physical symptoms.
This so makes sense and highlights our resistance/ignorance to embracing more than the eye can see.
Despite all our technical expertise we have not found a way to cure the ills we suffer from, it is an endless game of cat and mouse. When we introduce the science of soul and spirit, we open the door onto the missing realm of wisdom that once applied to the human condition will accelerate our medicine existentially. What stops Humanity from embracing it with opens arms is our own greed, because this science cannot be patented, it is freely available to everyone.
We put so much effort and emphasis on technology, not realising that often it’s simply a distraction from the life that is forever waiting to be both lived and claimed.
So true Rowena. And not only greed but also recognition, identification and validation have become so sought after. The filling of oneself from the outer at the cost of our inner connection with ourselves.
It’s huge to understand what is behind us making unloving choices to our bodies. You don’t see animals taking up smoking or overeating in the wild. So we have to consider that a spirit who is trying to keep us in creation is indeed a possibility to how we treat ourselves.
Yes, why are we making those choices and so many of them and so often?
I tried to stop smoking but as Serge presents it wasn’t until I truly healed the root issue of why I was smoking that I actually didn’t want one again. I absolutely love working with myself in a way that isn’t just about the function of my body but also going deeper with my soul and calling out the patterns, behaviours and beliefs my spirit are attached to.
It’s very difficult to stop doing something if we haven’t understood and healed why we were doing it, what we were trying to medicate. Willpower for some is one thing but the likelihood is, we will just take up another habit that is possibly not as harmful and might even look good in the eyes of others (like extreme exercise) but still, we haven’t adressed what took us down the road of the addiction in the first place.
It’s time for us to wake up and become aware of how we are CHOOSING to live because it is our choice to live this way.
All I know is that 12 years on the quality of my health has vastly improved as a consequence of this science. The long term trajectory of my health at 40 did not bode well but today I have established a strong foundation of health, vitality and wellbeing I never, ever anticipated I could experience. When the teaching here is sincerely applied, it works without question.
Gill, this is absolute music to my whole body, we can look to you and what you have expressed here to show us all what retirement can look like when the principles of health (as in the video) and lifestyle are applied.
Completely agree with you Rowena. I am unrecognisable from 7 years ago, with chronic health conditions, extreme exhaustion and much more; I am now healthy, and have energy and vitality I never dreamt I would or could have, from applying these teachings and addressing why my health and well-being was as it was.
After listening to this informative interview with Serge Benhayon it is obvious to me that the face of medicine would change out of all recognition if those in the medical field would be prepared to take a seat at the “table of consideration” Serge talks about, to discuss the state of the world’s health. After all what is there to lose when the global ill-health statistics are rocketing out of control. Humanity deserves to know there is an answer.
The tension and awareness we feel in life and the rising dis-ease all makes sense when we are offered the truth of what is really going on and who we are with true understanding of our sprit and our soul so clearly and simply heard here and the responsibility we all have with this and how we are living.
Unless we look at how the human spirit affects the way we behave and how it influences the choices we make, we will remain in the dark for that much longer and watch illness and disease continue to rise.
So true Kev – until we expose the spirit its influences will still seek to keep it hidden whilst gratifying its existence.
Gosh, until we expose the spirit, we must first accept that we have one.
And, being in the dark we lose our senses and cannot see what our choices are doing to us. Have we just accepted, being in the recycle process of self-invoked illness with its forever increasing pattern?
At the end of the day, the truth presented here is evident in the quality of those who, to the best of their abilities, embody these teachings in every day life. Resuming responsibility for our arrogant spirits is sound medicine that quietly and resolutely heals many toxic and un-necessary ills.
More and more people are accepting that we have a spiritual aspect to us and that it is worth looking into. Yet it is still by and large the way people seem to relate to this area of our life in an airy fairy way. The way Serge Benhayon has always covered the topic of Spirit and Soul is well explained, down to earth and very practical. The fact that he is talking about the relationship with illness & disease here is great. This is an area the medical system has been really struggling in, so bringing greater understanding is immensely valuable.
If you do that, Richard, I found that I then get the distinct impression that I am more than my body.
It would be great if we ever get to know what spirit and soul actually are as there is so much literature on these matters.
What I appreciate most with this science is that it explains the un-explainable. When we fully acknowledge the arrogance of the Spirit and the extent of its dis-ease in this world, all the weird things we do suddenly makes sense. It is this dis-ease that is the root cause behind all our self damaging habits and crazy pursuits that end up in those bizarre health conditions that our current medical sciences struggle to fathom out and find an answer for.
And, our dis-ease has given birth to the multi-symptomatic patient!
Its true, conventional medicine is top notch. We are very blessed in Australia also to not have to pay upfront fees for our consultation and further health services in the public system. I have been through the medical system a number of times. Recently I went as far as I could go via a specialist with many many tests and then onto surgery to check inside of me. From a medical perspective as far as medicine could go I was cleared. I was amazed because I had been experiencing a pain that was consistent and became intense at times. So with the support of esoteric practitioners and the amazing modalities, there is an energetic side I now have to deal with and be responsible with applying my full commitment to change the energy I have been living in to cause this dis-ease and dis-harmony.
Together, conventional medicine and its technical and diagnostic marvels and esoteric medicine and its energetic depth can assist us to have a much more complete and all around serving health care system.
This view on illness and disease feels to me quite pioneering; ancient, yet very new to the modern western world. If true and accepted, we really may have found our answer to the current magnitude of health and well-being difficulties.
Yes this view may appear new, yet it has been repeated so many times with different flavours throughout the ages. With our health system on its knees with the extent of illness and disease, it is time that we revisited what is shared by the Ageless Wisdom. Yes it may not fit neatly within the limitation of our currently accepted science, yet the more you lift the self-imposed blind-fold, the more everything in life starts to make sense.
For me, today, having taken off the blind fold, it makes complete sense. Yet, I know if I were to rewind back 20 years ago I know I wouldn’t have been ready to hear it or see it and could well have dismissed it as hog wash. That blind fold, blinkers and even ear muffs are very restrictive!
Of those who have applied the teaching of the Ageless Wisdom as a way of life the most if not all will testify to the life changing effects for the better, returning to a way of life which makes sense on every level.
When we reawaken and start listening to our bodies, magic happens to us and those around us.
Spirit and soul and their manifestations in the body – not love and love – could be very important and even decisive ingredients in illness and healing.
Imagine how our young doctors might feel if this science formed the basis of their medical training. I wonder if it would reduce the high suicide rate that plagues the profession or make any difference to the rate of burn out so commonly experienced?
It’s an intriguing question that you ask. Doctors are under so much pressure to meet deadlines and budgets – what does it feel like at the end of a working day when you are utterly exhausted and yet also have a niggling feeling that you didn’t deliver what your patients truly needed?
The same can be said of the teaching profession, and I am sure of many others. There is a rising tension in the awareness that how we have set up our systems are counter productive to the innate love that we are and the innate love that is there and needed to be expressed.
Great point Michelle – and so we have thousands of thousands of people accumulating a momentum of huge tension, exhaustion and depression at the fact that they are not able to give their all. Holidays, TV, alcohol and a score of other distractions can seem to bury this pain for a period, but it is all there and building and will eventually explode – through illness, disease, or mental health or breakdown in relationships..or…
The fact of these suicide statistics amongst doctors is a sure sign that it is a known that current scientific paradigms do not have all the answers, and not only does it not have all the answers the consciousness that comes with it is limiting and imposing and is harmful in its avoidance of delivering in full what is true.
If we miss a deadline at work the worst that can happen is you can get fired. What pressure must there be to have a person’s life in your hands literally? Are we not responsible by our, ill choices that now require their skills to attempt to fix us and place the burden of life and death in their hands!
It’s not surprising that the scientific world is not interested in exploring the spirit and soul aspect of the human being when there is a multitude of new age modalities out there which promise the earth and deliver very little in the way of true healing.
The scientific world demands proof and uses a literal scale that requires A to Z physical proof. Most people want Z the quick fix, is this where new age modalities come in to play?
Having disappeared into the false and tantalising world of spirituality for many years I can state categorically that not only did the ‘new age modalities’ that I tried ‘deliver very little in the way of true healing’ but they were directly responsible for adding to what I already did have that needed healing.
I know that there are distinct moments in my life that I can feel I have an option over how to behave, which quality to go with so to speak, to be open minded, steady and receptive, or reactionary, emotional and driven. One choice supports my health, the other drains me, so gradually I come to know the differing qualities of my Soul or Spirit and hence guide more of my choices towards the former in favour of how bright and vital it makes me feel as a consequence.
Yes I agree. It also gives me permission to give myself a break and explore what is going on more deeply, without the criticism that has become such a familiar human habit.
What are we waiting for?! Let’s get to the ‘table of consideration’ and have the conversations needed to address the dis-ease we are drowning under. There is so much in this interview to inspire deep consideration.
I’m with you Matilda but in being in the place to consider the truth here presented we are asked to be open to the wider truths of life which may expose us in our own choices and this is the cause of resistance in many others. Great that there are a growing number of people showing how a different way of living makes this so easy to do.
The 7.5 billion of us took a while to get where we are today. The growing number of people living a different way of life may take a while to build our momentum. We may be few in numbers but our ripples are being felt by many!
I totally agree the ‘table of consideration’ is well needed now, right now, but it seems things are going to have to get a lot worse before everyone jumps on board.
Kev, I agree that “things are going to have to get a lot worse before everyone jumps on board”, the only real question is ‘how bad will we allow them to get?’
Like Dante’s Inferno, how many rings must we experience before we wake up?
The wider the table and the more who take a seat bring a deeper conversation of truth and understanding for all.
Agreed Matilda. We should be setting up “tables of consideration” in every conceivable place possible to integrate this science into our everyday understanding about illness, disease and true wellbeing. Our health statistics are too alarming for us to ignore this God given opportunity.
I know many would probably find this interview challenging, and I certainly at times have found Serge’s numerous presentations challenging too but as he rightly puts, something has to change as we are out of control as a species blinded by the comfort of our ignorance and indulgences and this trajectory cannot continue indefinitely. Being open to seeing a different way is indeed a very needed approach to life.
I have absolutely no doubt of the multi dimensionality of the human being and thanks to Serge Benhayon once again for presenting with such simplicity and understanding, the relationship between illness, disease and our multi-dimensional nature.
Yes, we are very powerful and can use that power for or against us and even simultaneously in different aspects of our life.
I have always had a knowing about re-incarnation, that I have lived many lives all over the world, spoken many different languages and lived in a variety of cultures. What Serge Benhayon has contributed to this immutable science empowers me to deeply appreciate that the quality of my choices go beyond just this lifetime, the more I embrace this the deeper my purpose grows to take immense care of myself, as the quality of my health and lifestyle choices establishes the foundation of my next life.
Now THIS is what health plans should look like! Knowing that we can by the way we live lovingly, contribute to good health and a life of vitality and productivity well into the future. This could be said to be living the future now.
Perceiving and appreciating an illness as a blessing is a radical one by today’s standards. However, although it does not alter the physical symptoms it is a paradigm shift of focus whereby true healing, and not just a cure, can occur.
When you put it like that Gill, that ‘it’s the spirit all the time in dis-ease’ we can see both why the disease manifests in the body and how we need to start to view illness and disease to bring about the deeper consideration and healing.
Such an important distinction to know that a blessing can come with illness and disease, not the illness itself (which needs the medical attention) but the blessing is in the possibility that is presented at the same time, that leaves us more open to reviewing the choices we make.
It is a remarkable re-education about illness and disease to understand that the many conditions we suffer arise from our own wayward disregard. What it enables me to see is that the true way to eradicating illness and disease arise when we live in a very self regarding and respectful way, something that at present is poorly studied and researched.
The very fact that the interviewer is herself a practising medical surgeon and yet can also engage with and relate to much of what is being said here, proves that the two ways of addressing illness and diseases are not mutually exclusive. Indeed both she and Serge Benhayon repeatedly say that the two must work hand-in-hand. I find this really inspiring and ‘realistic’ in contrast to some alternate ways of treating the body that seem to reject all conventional medicine. When I’m ill, I want fast, effective and well-tested treatment to get better…BUT…I also want to go deeper; to fully understand and address the root cause of the illness so that I can truly and absolutely heal myself.
Yes, the fact that the interviewer is a practising medical surgeon is not only very confirming that the two approaches work hand-in-hand to bring about true healing, the interviewer is able to be very insightful in her questions and by doing so draw out from Serge Benhayon the depth, wealth and wisdom that he has to offer on this subject.
Yes, Otto, I love what you share here. The fact that a surgeon is open to what is being shared by Serge Benhayon shows that the two can work together. For myself too, I know that going to the doctor, consultants or specialists is so super supportive and I couldn’t manage without them. (I saw a gorgeous doctor just yesterday about my thyroid condition). But to have another angle and root cause as to why my symptoms have occurred and what steps I need to take in terms of making different choices is very empowering for my own health and wellbeing. It’s like I can take responsibility for my health without demanding that the doctors do it all for me. It feels more like a team effort.
Keeping it ultra simple…it’s clearly not working the way we are doing it, so we must be missing something.
The problem is that it isn’t clear to many people that it’s not working. We can convince ourselves of almost anything.
To admit that it is not working the way we are doing it, is to have to acknowledge that there is something that we are choosing or doing that overrides the bodies natural harmony.
In this interview, Serge Benhayon talks about reincarnation in relation to the manifestations of illness and disease and as such, the behaviours of the spirit. And I can understand how and why this may be difficult or challenging to watch or listen to because it does go beyond many of the current beliefs we have about the human body and reincarnation itself. Which is why it is important to take your time with these teachings by Serge and to discern for yourself how you feel about them and to be honest about this too, about perhaps what they may stir up or make you feel uncomfortable about. There is no right or wrong here, just the potential for a journey – your journey of exploration and discovery about yourself and your body.
So much is offered in this interview and an opportunity to view health and ill health from a different perspective. Personally, I find it fascinating, but quite understandably as you say, Shami much about this may be difficult or challenging to hear.
Yes Shami. I have heard much spoken about reincarnation, much of which made a lot of sense…but it wasn’t until specific things happened in my life that I became very sure of the fundamentals of what is being presented here. I imagine it is an almost infinite subject and I suspect that my understanding of it will deepen as I go along.
Staying open allows us to apply new awareness to experiences we may have had and in this application I have found that confirmation has come from my body itself rather than the mind. It is hard to doubt something when you have felt it strongly.
The mind can always argue it both ways. The body is absolute – we can re-interpret and ignore, but that isn’t the body’s fault!
On any long journey, you discover what is not needed, and you discard all except what is needed. When we refuse for whatever reason and continue to carry what is not required, we wear our out the vessel that is transporting it. With reincarnation, do you just pick up where you left off?
When we bring this science to bear in life so much of Humanity’s bizarre behaviour suddenly makes sense. All the reasons behind the hideous things we do to our extremely delicate bodies such as smoking, drinking alcohol and coffee, taking drugs, eating sugar to name but a few can now be seen in a new light of understanding. Having been there and got the T-Shirt, being brought face-to-face with my arrogant spirit afforded me the opportunity to make different choices in respect of my body not in spite of it.
I like that last line, Rowena. ‘in respect of my body not in spite of it’… what a totally awesome shift.
I agree wholeheartedly Richard, as much as we have mastered our current form of medicine it still falls short of providing the answer to the health situation we find ourselves in – surely we cannot be so ignorant to keep pursing it as the only answer, especially when there is now emerging a way of life which, when observed, clearly shows a reversal of so many of the multitude of ill-health trends facing humanity and evident in the research and statistics of the worlds health organisations.
So true. If we were on top of illness and disease and everything was fine, perhaps we would not need such conversations. But the fact is that the medical system is buckling under the weight of the out of control increase in the numbers and severity of the cases presented by humanity.
So why are we not looking at every area and not leaving no stone unturned? This to me shows the height of arrogance and irresponsibility.
We’re not able to ‘look at every area or not leave any stone unturned’ because our conniving spirit, who is the culprit in all of this will do anything at all to avoid identifying itself as the cause of all of our unrest. As long as the spirit is in the driving seat we will never be allowed to see the driver.
Considering the plight of our modern-day rates of illness and disease, it would make sense to explore every possibility and every avenue of explanation… can we really afford not to?
The Spirit has its own level of illness but it is not physical it is energetic, it also has its own psychological problems all of which then play out in the human being.
When we begin to really understand energy and the impact it has on us via the spirit we will have a much better understanding of all illnesses and diseases including mental illness. The difference between Spirit and Soul is so well covered in this video, and makes so much sense and is the missing link into why seemingly healthy people get sick.
The illnesses that the Spirit brings are like a virus. The treatment of virus infections is usually left up to a person’s immune system. And; self-care, hydration, rest and time are often the best-prescribed medicine.
This is it isn’t it – “when we accept that we are much more than flesh and bone” – this is the turning point.
I mean how often have we just written off a stomach ache or sore back…ignored it, or taken some medicine and hoped it goes away. Each of these moments is an opportunity for us to see more. And if we are ignoring the stomach ache, then is it any wonder that we put cancer down to ‘bad luck’?
Accepting it doesn’t cut it, only knowing it does.
A superb interview that opens the door and invites us in to a chamber of wisdom. Whether we accept or not is up to us, but at some point, the situation will get so very, very extreme (it already is) that we will surely have to open our eyes, minds and hearts to what is here being presented. The brilliance of modern medicine can not solely shoulder the burden.
‘The brilliance of modern medicine can not solely shoulder the burden.’ We have been relying on modern medicine for so long that we have lost our discernment – in wanting to be fixed so we can crack on with our lives as we have always done, we are failing to take responsibility for the illness and the part we must play in our own healing.
This is a great point. The quick fix of modern medicine is actually exactly what we are after, to avoid the reality of the way we are living. Thus, as demand and supply always shows us – we have made the bed that we are now lying in. But it can not sustain itself and unless we are prepared to make some very fundamental changes, we will be forced to by the total breakdown of the system. So, since the end result is ultimately the same, would it not be wiser to address the truth now?
Spirit and soul are concepts that have been used for a very long time, yet we are unable to investigate how these concepts affect our health. Where is the disconnect?
Having worked in mental health for a number of years this reveals the answers to so many situations I have encountered.
Yes mental illness is one thing that the health service is battling with and is on the increase with younger and younger patients being diagnosed and yet they don’t have the answers for it. Once we understand that we have a wayward spirit that controls our emotional outplay and therefore not just looking at the physical aspects and symptoms of the human being we will be able to approach mental illness very differently.
Gosh if a doctor talking about us having to have amputation factories as a result of the complications of diabetes along with the possibility of doctors being public servants of a system that is bankrupt doesn’t make us sit up and listen what will!!!! This interview gets completely under everything to the root cause. We really do need to be more energetically aware including truly understanding about the Soul and the spirit and the difference between them. This gives us a far greater understanding and awareness and an ability to truly support others just with mental health issues alone .. which are going through the roof.
How much more evidence for the spirit’s waywardness do we need before we start to acknowledge that there is one?
Just because we can’t see something, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. A magnet has an invisible pull, and we can feel its power, just like love.
As many of us are discovering, when we bring this scientific fact to bear in our lives, taking responsibility for our health and wellbeing feels very automatic. It becomes very natural to look within our selves for the root cause of an illness and understand what is being cleared as a result of our wayward spiritual conduct. We may of course still reach for the medicines and healing for support, but not rely on them to cure something that we are not willing to take responsibility for.
It is great to add the knowledge of Spirit and Soul to our psychology, especially the ‘unsettlement’ that plays out in our eating disorders
I know when I’m unwell I do stop and listen to my body more, this is a blessing but I also know that when I am well I need to also pay loving attention also. This brilliant interview highlights how I’ve the opportunity to be honest and look beneath any disease at the dis-ease of the spirit and the ill choices therein that were chosen and bring some healing to dis-ease. If I ignore the underlying factors I then try to be healthy but I’m fighting what has been to date an all too influential amount of dis-ease that I’ve tried to quell through ill means.
Unless we understand and accept that we have a spirit and a soul, and that there is a distinct difference between them, we’re going to be a long way off healing the root cause of our issues, diseases and illnesses.
That could well be true.
So true Bryony – like trying to solve a maths equations without considering one side of it. We have to allow ourselves to be aware of the whole situation we are in and if our current solutions are not working surely this implies we are not accounting for the whole situation.
The understanding offered here is a true complement and support for the current conventional medicine that has somehow in its specialisation reduced its bigger picture view and divorced itself from the holistic roots so many years ago it sprung from.
When I was pregnant with my children it very much invited questions in about existence, the differences between consciousness and form, why there is consciousness in form, where we come from and the fact of being in a physical body and what consciousness is held in the physical body – the being in the body etc. When we are born we all come in with different traits, some babies are more settled than others, some are born with illness and so on, all are born being able to feel and discern different energy – a baby responds to love even though he/she doesn’t know the word yet, just as they cry when something in the room doesn’t align with the love they know and the love they are. How is it possible that we don’t even consider and claim that we are multidimensional beings?
To have a different angle offered by Serge Benhayon on karma and reincarnation as not being a punishment I used to believe it was, brings an immediate sense of harmony in my body.
The true teachings of reincarnation and karma are the highest forms of Love and order for us to re-claim living with true responsibility..
I love these conversations with Serge Benhayon and the depth of understanding and awareness they offer. To be aware that there is another source of energy that runs through our body and causes recklessness and harm to our physical body – the spirit is wayward and destructive doing all it can to avoid the unsettlement carried through from life times. The body brings it to our attention and we need to stop and deal with our lifestyle choices.
Serge Benhayon deeply respects Western Medicine and advocates use of it. He also brings another element – to include the energetic understanding in treating illness and disease. The marriage of Western Medicine and Energetic Medicine will change the face of our current systems and offer true healing.
The clarity Serge Benhayon offers on the differences between our Soul and the spirit brings a deeper understanding of the root of illnesses and disease needing to be addressed energetically as well as physically.
Why do people, and I am so one of them, do things they know harm themselves? I totally get it when Serge Benhayon talks about the spirit wanting anything to quash the constant unease it feels and seeks relief in whatever is to hand. That illness is a loving way for us to stop and reconsider is, in my experience, so true.
There will come a day when we take the truth of Spirit and Soul for granted. It will be a fact that will inspire new and very effective models of diagnosis and treatment that blend our existing orthodox treatments with the efficacy of the Universal Medicine Healing Modalities, which are already making huge strides in this arena.
When we understand the agenda of the spirit it provides a much needed context to our behaviours that keep us from making loving choices.
Reincarnation and Karma are one of the highest forms of showing love, it is the ultimate way we meet with our choices – both the great choices we’ve made and the devastating ones too. We learn and deepen from both equally.
We are aware that we only have a partial understanding of causes and progress of disease – what is missing seems to be substantial so it is quite possible that a whole new concept needs to be brought in to explain disease aetiology and progression.
I love what Serge shares, that the spirit’s illnesses are emotional and therefore energetic based, this shows the absolute place that Sacred Esoteric Healing has in healing human conditions and unhealthy (self abusive) ways.
This certainly helps to clear up our understanding of where illness comes from. As a school teacher/TA, I am seeing many many more kids come through with emotional and behavioural issues. They all tend to have one thing in common and that is that they very much identify with what they have been labelled with and there is a stubbornness to hang on to these issues too. This is so ingrained that, to be honest, it can only be explained away by the fact of the spirit.
Is there so much resistance in considering the significance of the energetic aspects in our lives, examining our relationship with spirit and Soul and how they impact us, because it is a reminder of how this impacts us not just in illness and disease, but actually in every single area of our lives? And in fact worth asking the question then, could it be that we face illness and disease, as well as disharmony and distress in our world, precisely because we keep dodging this level of awareness and responsibility?
At some point the escalation of collective outplay in the denial of energetic awareness is going to reach such a cataclysm (if we haven’t reached it already) that we will be brutally forced to start considering the fact of spirit and soul. Sadly, the denial is such that I can’t see it happening any other way.
Understanding the loving outplay of reincarnation gives understanding of so many of the apparent unanswerable questions in life, such as why a child has cancer or autism and why some people experience torture and others do not. This interview presents this in a sensitive way yet does not hold back from presenting the reality that this understanding gives.
Yes, it’s a reality that is shied away from and also any explanation is often attacked when the truth of it all is a loving way to support us back to love. Choosing to resist does create greater pain but when we do choose to return we’re assisted every step of the way.
When I hear general members of the public talk about health issues and funding for research I can feel that they are missing a huge link in our healthcare, that of the awareness of Spirit and Soul.
Great words of wisdom Serge, we need to heal the spirit, cure the body, and the soul is the blessing. True heath and wellbeing awaits us if we follow this path.
I agree and before we do this we (everyone) needs to know the truth and difference with spirit and Soul. What Serge shares here does exactly that ✨
It really is time to be open minded and look further than what is on offer presently. Understanding that we are more than just flesh and bones and that we have lived many times and therefore have much more to heal than what this life makes sense of, is a great place to start.
So true kevmchardy and when we do it starts the journey back out of the rabbit-hole of suffering that humanity is presently spiralling down.
A challenging question to ask is why kids get cancer and I am blown away by the respect and delicacy with which Serge Benhayon responds. If we are denied the greater understanding of re-incarnation and the Law of Karma then it makes no sense that children should get such diseases and leaves us heart broken and challenging the concept of God as a consequence. But when we are re-connected to this Law and Science, we are empowered to see and comprehend a bigger purpose to illness and disease, that while still challenging to bear, takes on an entirely new meaning when we are enable to appreciate the healing that is taking place.
I find this interview really inspiring, because I love that way Serge Benhayon presents on the waywardness of the spirit and how this relates to the illnesses and diseases that I experience in my human body. And I find this empowering because then I can look at my behaviours and see what’s what and actually make some real changes that are not hopeful, but genuine.
Yes- making real changes and not hopeful ones can only happen when we’re ready to look at how we live everyday, and the decisions we make that affect our physical, mental and emotional wellbeing- and make basic but fundamental changes to the way we live.
True, Ariana… It’s not yet part of our norm. I wonder how many of the western world’s population actually are open to this, but daren’t raise the topic in general discussion in case they were labelled a ‘fruit loop!’
Understanding the psychology of the Spirit and its deep unrest is powerful medicine indeed. It has personally transformed my quality of emotional and mental health beyond all expectation, which in turn has empowered me to truly care for my body, health and wellbeing to a completely new level of integrity, respect and care with astounding results.
As Serge Benhayon says in this interview medicine is the greatest it has ever been yet the state of the health of humanity is not so great. What he proposes here may be very radical for many, however, it makes sense and those who have put into practice what he presents, in conjunction with the medical profession, there is now a group of people who are bucking all the present trends of ill-health.
Yes, it is really strange that we reduced our smoking as a society but, against expectations, our chance to get cancer is actually increasing, even after you account for age (we would expect a big increase in cancers because our population is ageing but the increase is actually beyond even that).
Very true and I am sure there are many other similar statistics that show the similar increase in illness and disease despite the huge increase in medical intervention, which all go to indicate that there is something else going that science and society in general are not addressing. This all gives further credence to what Serge Benhayon is presenting.
As all the statistical and anecdotal evidence shows that there is something not being addressed, which seems so obvious, this then begs the question as to why are people not looking for the missing piece? Could it be as simple as there the invested interests on the part of the providers of the care and those receiving it that they do not want to look for it? On the providers part the greed for financial rewards and influence and on the part of the receivers the denial of responsibility outweighs the quest for truth?
As an English teacher the concept of spirit and soul come up all the time in class. The problem is that they are not properly understood in texts and so offer no insight to the students reading them, and along with modern rejection of the ‘super natural’ as aberrant nonsense, we are not supporting ourselves to connect to the fact of them, our place in the universe or our sense of why we are here.
Well said Michelle and thus we compound our situation by not acknowledging and educating our selves about this fact and fact it is. We have a Spirit and we have a Soul. The two are very defined, as are their qualities, energy and purpose. When we muddle the two or deny their existence, we cut our selves off from our most fundamental understanding about who we are and why we are here, a deliberate sabotage that leaves us lost at heart.
It would never have occurred to me before Universal Medicine that I was dulling my awareness through food, how I moved my body, expressed and so on. The extent to which I do this has diminished but I feel I am still reluctant to feel the extent of it.
Sadly the self bashing that happens when we ‘make mistakes’ is such an ingrained consciousness that it takes a lot of commitment to work through and heal.
Today one of the students I support was feeling very joyful. He was singing to himself as he was working. During my day it is quite rare to encounter simple joy.. when we come across it it is pure gold.
In connecting to the current denial of the bigger picture and how focused the majority appear to be on temporal life as it is, it would seem that most are simply not open to going there. However that said I am sure there are very many in number who silently and quietly question universal order, but because it isn’t the norm to have these conversations (and conversations that would challenge traditional religious teachings to boot) awareness is not encouraged to blossom and grow. When the concept of spirit and soul was first explained to me it made so much sense because of my own private ponderings and experiences.
This just shows how very much we limit ourselves when we don’t include spirit, soul, reincarnation and the energetic cause and lifestyle choices which lead to illness and disease. With all these factors included we will then be able to reign in the continuing rise in ill health.
Without these factors included we have whacking great big blind spots – no wonder despite of our amazing advances in medicine we are nowhere even close to getting on top of things, in fact everything is escalating and becoming more severe every day.
This brings a much broader understanding to who we are, how we live and the many aspects of our ‘dis-ease’ and disease itself. If we consider what is offered here, that we need to cure the body, but also heal the underlying agent, the spirit, it broadens our understanding and offers us a way to truly address our ills, and see beyond their physicality; it also introduces our own agency, that we ourselves as patients have our own part to play in how we live and that we have choice in this, so we can work alongside the medics treating us in truly addressing our dilemmas.
A wonderfully empowered and responsible relationship with illness, disease and healing. Now this is what I call a real whole-istic approach!
Very true Monica. We are our own agents of healing in the process of disease and while we can make superb use of our orthodox medicine and its advances, plus the esoteric healing modalities that address our wayward spirits; at the end of the day it is us who have to make the actual choice to choose a loving way to live. There is no magic potion that can make us do, but there is a great deal of wisdom available through Univeral Medicine that can guide our footsteps back to a loving life style.
I have always loved how Serge takes these conversations to a deeper level. The simple question about what leads someone to smoke in the first instance is the core than needs healing in addition to the support someone can receive when they are physically giving up smoking. We all have our own versions of smoking and it’s always important to check in with ourselves and ask what preceded that particular behaviour?
Very true, ‘we all have our versions of smoking’ and having stopped smoking, I have never healed why I smoked, and hence other destructive behaviours pop up to take the place of what ever I have managed to feel is too harmful to body to continue with. It is essentially the disconnection to God’s love that causes my pain which is entirely my own making, a stubborn refusal to accept I am worthy of such love, having lived lifetimes in denial of God. For having walked in the opposite direction of what is right in front of me. The irony is that no matter what direction I take it is always right in front of me – the love of God – maybe that is what is so painful to admit and become humble about!
God’s love is so much closer than right in front of us.
I know from my own personal experience that when these facts are taken into account, sincerely studied and embodied, the ensuing results fundamentally transmute major health issues. Having suffered from a string of debilitating illness from endometriosis to a slipped disc, migraines and a pre-diabetic condition to name but a few, today these conditions are a vague memory in a very fit and healthy body. Whatever may be said to dismiss this work, my body is (and will continue to be for a long time yet) a living testament to its truth.
“Whatever may be said to dismiss this work, my body is (and will continue to be for a long time yet) a living testament to its truth.” Mine too Rowena, to live without back pain something most of the world suffers from and the fact that I am far healthier now than I was 20 years ago and continue to be, is testament to Universal Medicine. Marry conventional and Universal Medicine together and we have the answer to the many many debilitating and life-threatening illnesses we have today. The world may not be ready for this yet but the health services are bursting at the seams and cannot continue in the same vein struggling constantly to manage our illnesses.
There is indeed a lot ‘out there’ on spirituality and the ‘new age’ world which I have experienced in my past but never have I been presented with a clear understanding of the spirit and its role in illness and disease as presented here by Serge Benhayon in this interview. We are responsible for the spirit and unless we have this understanding and acceptance of its existence and how it too has a form of psychological problems such as a deep unsettlement and unease then we are left in our ignorance and arrogance of what and how illness and disease is created.
There have been attempts to label Esoteric Medicine and what Universal Medicine offers as ‘alternative’ medicine. This could not be further from the truth. Here we are seeing the purest form of ‘complementary’ medicine which supports and enhances what conventional medicine offers, because it is supplying the part that conventional medicine has chosen to abandon along the way: the very crucial understanding of spirit and Soul from within us on every aspect of our life and our personal responsibility through the choices we make.
Just opening this topic up shows how we have as a race focussed on the what and how but avoided the ‘why?’ – looking at this brings so much more depth to life and instant humility. Thank you Serge and Eunice.
When Serge Benhayon began presenting about the difference between spirit and soul, it was the hugest ‘aha’ moment for me, as in that moment years and year of questions were answered. I suddenly realised that what I had been feeling had been true, that there were two different energies within me, one that tried to lead me astray, very successfully at times, and one that had the most loving ‘voice’ which always had my deepest interests at heart. I can see so clearly now that my spirit has no regard for me, the human being, and will lead me away from anything that is of benefit to me, but my soul is simply there to take me closer to who I truly am, and to live in this glorious way.
You hear a lot of things around, but little make the same amount of sense when put into context of the larger picture as what Serge talks about.
There may be some who regard this science as mere nonsense, but just like many other advances in medicine, what is presented here will transform our future understanding of illness and disease when all our other methods of prevention or cure have been exhausted.
Yes, Rowena there will be many who are either sceptical or who may brush this aside as nonsense. They may even try to ridicule it, but how else can we explain the extortionate rise in illness and disease and the fact that whilst traditional medicine is amazing at treating symptoms we have got nowhere near understanding the root to our ill health problems.
What if this interview gave us an opportunity to look at health in a totally different light and realize there is much more at play here than a human making a choice. What if we were to consider that how we live and move calls in an energy that moves through us – and if we live in a way that is against our bodies, then this is in fact illness and disease.
This is a huge consciousness breaker, HM and if taken into the mainstream will alter our relationship with health fundamentally forever, like realising the earth wasn’t flat after all and that we in fact orbit the sun not the other way around.
We don’t need illness or disease, but if we don’t take care of our bodies by living a loving life, then we need something that offers us the opportunity to stop, clear out the poison and adjust our living.
The difference between spirit and Soul as well as the impact each of them have on every aspect of the human life has been the most enlightening and empowering understanding I have ever been offered. It makes sense of so much in life that humanity has for so long been troubled with.
Just living in separation to this truth about Spirit and Soul brings illness, a constant un-rest within us that we attempt to quell with a great many toxic substances and harmful foods amongst a plethora of other distractions. One of the most healing acts we can do lies in accepting that we chose to separate from our dearest friend and to start making moves internally to re-connect to this deeply missed part of our selves.
Finding out that lifestyle has such an impact on our body and that it causes many illness and diseases has been great, but we have to wonder why is it so hard for us to change our lifestyles generally? Why don’t we just say: “yep let’s do this” and all stop smoking, stop drinking alcohol, eat healthy and nourishing food, have loving relationships and so on? The fact of the spirit brings a lot of understanding to this behaviour like nothing else ever has done in my experience.
The Spirit has a lot to answer for. It’s day of reckoning will come.
This interview is so supportive in helping us to understand the difference between our Soul and our Spirit and how the latter can sabotage our own health and well being in so many ways. It is only when this is acknowledged that we will start to address the health care crisis that we are currently experiencing.
It seems so clear to me that if humanity were to embrace the difference between spirit and soul that it wouldn’t take long before we no longer had a global health crisis. But unfortunately there are factions who do not want this truth to be known and so try to block it from humanity in any way possible. Let’s give humanity the information and then allow them the freedom to make the choice, to say ‘this makes sense, tell me more’, or ‘no thank you, it’s not for me’.
I agree Gill, for me this was a revelation too, because I used to use the words ‘spirit or soul’ as if they were the same. Very supportive to know the difference and the impact they each have on our body.
I love what is offered in this video, while honoring the current medical system adding something extra to it as a beautiful partner, or ‘bride’ as Serge calls it here. I would say we can certainly use an extra dimension, in this case the energetic one with the difference between spirit and soul, for we have so much illness and disease in our current world that we are reaching a point where it becomes no longer doable.
To reveal the fact of spirit and soul and their role in illness and disease is a massive step and may be ‘way to out there’ for some, but speaking for myself I find that on hearing this information it explains the unexplained that modern medicine can’t yet get to.
To be honest I do not think this is ‘out there’ at all as over the years I have read many books regarding the spirit and Soul. This is explained so simply and clearly here exactly what the spirt and Soul is and is what I know to be the truth. No more searching it is just about living what I know now.
When we can connect to our own experiences of soul and spirit it makes perfect sense. However, I understand that for many who are still so held by the prevailing consciousness that life is simply temporal, that there are no such things as entities, that we think our own thoughts, that life is simply about function – paying the mortgage and being secure, that the brain is king and the body is dismissed, it would be a pretty hard thing to do to admit that we are vehicles of energy and that there are two energies we can choose to align to.
I often wonder why we can be so closed to what offers us the answers to so many of our worldly problems and the answer to that is that most of us cling on for dear life to the individuality the spirit thrives on instead of accepting with grace the wisdom of the soul.
How often do we follow the voice of the wayward spirit instead of Soul? A choice we’re faced with constantly every day. Each time we choose abuse over love, we are dis-empowered and our body feels the effect immediately.
Spirit and soul either exist or they don’t. If they exist it would make sense that they have in interplay with our physical and mental health.
It is certainly a truth that we don’t want to hear, because it brings us up short about our true responsibility. Our arrogant choice to deny this quite clear distinction between Spirit and Soul is the root cause for a mega amount of cruelty, greed, corruption and war in the world. The message that Serge Benhayon delivers is sorely needed and one that we will all be forced to admit is true in the not so distant future when all our other excuses have failed us.
The question so many people ask is if there is a God why does he allow children to get sick and die. This video helps us understand that if we accept reincarnation as a possibility and that how we have lived in our previous life will affect this life and that illness and disease is a way of reconciling and re-balancing our wayward behaviour. For many they are not ready to hear this, because it asks us to take responsibility for every life we have lived and every we will live.
In understanding reincarnation and the bigger picture, it makes so much sense to me why illness and disease manifest, especially for those who are young. This doesn’t negate the potential trauma and grief of seeing your child get very sick but it certainly helps to put it into perspective, which in turn helps you to deal with the resultant emotions that occur. If I know that how I have lived and how I pass over is what I am coming back to, then it invites me to take responsibility for my choices now.
Great interview exposing the wayward spirit and how through its self abusive choices we as humanity are out of control and no longer taking responsibility for our actions. When we understand the truth that we do not need to have all sickness and disease and that it can be a result of our abusive behaviours that have caused the body to say stop and look at our out of control life style and the choices we are making, will we really begin to see how we have created the momentum that has brought about the illness in the first place.
That the spirit has its own illness and disease and psychological problems must clearly change the way we treat the person once they manifest into human behaviour and then onto illness and disease in the physical body.
If that is the case it would be difficult to treat such ailments without knowing the underlying cause and our present large and increasing difficulties may point to a substantial deficiency in our understanding.
I often wonder how far things have to go before en masse we start looking for answers to our health problems that are constantly on the rise. What Serge offers here is a well needed alternative and complement to what we already have and we do all know the old saying, ‘prevention is better than cure’ and that is what we get when we understand more about the energetic root cause of our problems.
There are tyrants in the outside world but we also have our own tyrant inside and this is the one we need to address if true healing is sought.
Does everyone know what the sun is and what it is responsible for, for us and everything that lives on this planet? So, why do we try to repackage our soul and make it something different?
If our understanding of our energetic make-up is based on our understanding of spirit and soul it is ironic that we have come so far from knowing this.
It is so incredible to know that with illness and disease there is a lot more at play than the physicality. That the spirit is there to be healed. It explains why we treat our bodies the way we do.
If we are getting sicker and stretching our health systems to capacity, more than ever before, then clearly something about medicine, as we know it, isn’t working. It would be foolish to dismiss what is being presented here as too far-fetched, as it might just be the thing that helps us out of our critical mess. Considering the dire straits we are in, every avenue of health care is worth exploring.
Understanding what spirit and soul mean makes so much more sense of the world. Combining conventional medicine with Universal Medicine modalities is a no brainer in my estimation, as an ex nurse and ex homeopath, where no mention was made of either in my former training and a muddled concept given in the second.
When this science becomes more widely accepted it will transform medicine as we know it today. The concept of spirit and soul has enabled me to make so much more sense of the world and why things happen the way they do.
What Serge Benhayon presents regarding illness and disease is vitally important for all of us to know so that we can work with conventional medicine with a greater understanding of what is going on in our bodies that relates to mutlidimensionality, not just the three dimensional physical aspect.
That’s a great question Jane: do we care? For most of us we really don’t care and this understanding of the spirit helps us shed light on this dismissive uncaring aspect. Seeing ourselves as being where we are in all our glory and in our lovelessness is a good starting point to healing that which does not care.
This is a subject or should I say science that will take us out of what we look back on as a dark period in our history health wise where illness and disease is on the forever rise even with the wonderful ways we have of dealing with it medically. To understand why we can smoke, over eat, drink alcohol or search for the next adrenalin rush etc, we need to get to grips with what our spirit needs to exist.
Not many of us like hearing about what is truly going on energetically when we make choices that affect our health and wellbeing but thank God there is someone who will speak the truth for his love of humanity so that those who are interested can consider and make different choices for themselves.
Right now it is assumed that spirit and soul have no influence in illness, disease and healing or, if they did, it is better to ignore these influences. Perhaps one reason why we are getting cancer at an increasing rate.
This, regarding the Soul and the spirit, is key for us to learn and understand particularly for our whole wellbeing and in supporting others whole wellbeing and Serge gives such an true and accurate understanding here of the spirit particularly at the end of the interview.
To me this is the missing link we have all been searching for. Having embraced these teachings and embodied to the best of my ability, they have brought a depth of health, vitality and purpose to my life that nothing else truly offers us.
Definitely the missing link. Having a true understanding now of the difference between spirit and soul just makes sense of so many events that happen to people and in the world. Unless we accept this we are floundering in the dark, and have no true answers for the big questions in life.
Adding spirit and Soul to the mix of medical care is the missing piece to why with all the amazing developments in Western medicine illness and disease is constantly increasing.
This view on the human being, spirit and soul and illness and disease is not only making sense it is also a very necessary understanding because if we keep going in this way the medical system will indeed go bankrupt as irresponsibility in how we live will just go through the roof. We need to be supported to heal our spirit so we can make healthier lifestyle choices across the board and do this consistently so.
It is a good question – how much dysfunction will we tolerate until we are ready to go for results rather than rigid adherence to rules that don’t work well enough? Looking at the Middle Ages it seems that we can tolerate enormous amounts of it.
It blows me away that one day we may not be able to afford to pay for the costs of illness and disease. It feels like many will not awaken to the very real impact of this until it actually happens which by then is too late to stop it. It is unfortunate that many of us do not stop until the situation gets so bad it forces us too.
To so many of us, the idea of spirit and soul as presented by Serge is just too way out there, so way out there that it is just dismissed out of hand. However, if it is entertained, even just for a moment, it offers a chink of insight into how we have allowed ourselves to be almost bankrupted by a system that for all its advancements simply can’t keep pace with the extraordinary rise in illness and disease we are experiencing. We need to honestly look at where this rise comes from and how we haven’t been able to stem the flood for all our investment in research, buildings, wards, doctors, machinery and medicine and so on.
Now and then you hear Serge drop in a word that is not commonly used in the way he structures it in a sentence. I really enjoy hearing these words and the truth that they offer. Its worth listening how every word is pronounced throughout this interview. It brings a true depth to life and the understanding of it.
Life is confusing without the understanding that we have this aspect namely the spirit which really wants to derail our attempts to evolve and heal ourselves. It makes sense of why we actively harm ourselves.
An amazing interview showing the world what is really going on behind the scenes with our lives and the energies at play that expose the forces that exist and play with us all. We know as children what we see and feel and this is hidden in the world and not acknowledged but now we have Serge Benhayon confirming what we all know and the settlement inside from this knowing acknowledged is immense and changes our lives when we are prepared and willing to see.
It is essential for our health to understand the psychology of the spirit and it explains a lot as does the science of reincarnation and the loving law of karma. Fascinating video covering so many subjects.
It is freeing knowing the true meaning of spirit and soul. That joins a list of many other words that over time has lost its roots over time and become bastardised.
Once we do know there is a difference between the spirit and the soul, we can start to make far more sense of human behaviour because when we are in spirit we really do not look after our bodies the same way as we do when connected to our souls. Hence the crazy self-destructive way many of us live.
The confusion between spirit and Soul is spread across the world and all the main religions appear to have a different view. The explanation given by Serge Benhayon makes more sense to me than anything I was taught by the Catholic church.
Serge has an beautiful way of explaining things – I really understand now that it is the spirit behind the scenes that has many dis-eases to heal on its journey back to the soul. Because the spirit more often than not, lacks the willingness to take responsibility for its decisions, it is the physical body that then cops the consequences. But in this lies the answer to how to stop these wayward actions. When we learn to work with the body and care for it deeply, the spirit gets sandwiched and offered the opportunity to heal. This is the blessing in itself.
Healed by a loving sandwich – truly a blessing.
Everything is energy and we do need to incorporate this into everything we do including medicine and our understanding of illness and disease. Amazing video to watch – and so supportive in gaining a deeper understanding of how this all works.
As a teenager, I always wondered about the whole ‘mind body spirit’ thing and I was always puzzled over the soul and spirt. I assumed they were the same thing. I found it refreshing and to be honest a bit of a relief when in my early 30s I heard Serge Benhayon’s present the difference between the two. For me it made so much sense and I could really relate my personal experiences between the two.
I was equally confused and simply came to the conclusion that we were not significant enough to know. My goodness, what hogwash! Through having met Serge Benhayon not only have I come to understand what the difference between soul and spirit is (confirming that I already knew given that I have had many experiences of both), I have come to understand just how deeply significant we are.
The love Serge has of humanity is deeply palpable. Although what he shares is rather confronting for most, he only shares it because it is the truth and he does deeply care for us all, well beyond what most could even imagine.
A reflection of the spirit’s need to separate.
Thank you Eunice and Serge for leaving no stone unturned in the exposure of illness and disease and how our spirit thrives off seperation and being insular. A much needed conversation to have if we are ever going to truly understand what is really behind any movement.
Yes I work on the front line of health care and I would tend to agree with you here Doug that we are losing the battle with illness and disease despite all our advancements and modern techniques. So it makes sense in this situation to stop and reconsider our whole approach to it and be open to all possibilities.
I really like how in this interview there is no arrogance from either the interviewer or the guest being interviewed but an openness to learning more about medicine and working with the current system in partnership not opposition. Very refreshing thank you.
Spot on Andrew – such a humbleness that allows a true exploration of what medicine and health and healing and are all about.
Ever wondered why we are at times self-abusive and do things that harm our bodies – this video provides a great explanation for that…. and many other things!
Makes sense to me, it has bought a depth to life and what happens to a whole other level.
We seriously need this table of consideration and the open minded people to go with it so we can really get to the bottom of illness and disease before the health systems around the world do start going bankrupt and the sick outnumber the well.
I wonder how bad our overall health is going to have to get before we start looking at the spirit and soul aspect to illness and disease. When we do take this subject a lot more seriously, that is when illness and disease will start decreasing instead of constantly being on the rise.
It has been puzzling me for some time, why, when in the world today we have so much amazing medical technology as well as more doctors and more medical professionals than ever before, that the ill-health of the world continues to spiral seemingly out of control. People are getting sicker, more exhausted and often suffering from multiple health conditions which in turn is placing such a huge physical and financial strain on all health organisations. For me, there has always been a missing piece to the puzzle and the man who has provided me/us with that incredibly essential piece, is Serge Benhayon and in this interview by Dr Eunice Minford, he shares so very clearly what that is.
I have so much respect for Serge in not holding back here and the respect and love he has towards others can clearly be felt. Growing up, well in my 20’s, when I heard the word spirit used so much I could not find any clarification on this. Things that I was reading or hearing were using the word Soul and Spirit in the same context and I thought well if they are the same then why are there 2 names? There was a knowing within me that they were not the same however I could not find the truth anywhere. That is until hearing Serge. With regards to illness and disease that also was the same with me. I would ‘kind of’ take care of myself but it wasn’t until I was diagnosed with something and needed an operation which completely freaked me out and terrified me that made me realise my vulnerability and how much I had taken my body and health for granted and the importance of my health. It shook me up. However, I agree with Serge in that we do not need illness or disease for this to happen .. to be given a stop of shaken out of something. Would it not be easier (and less expensive for the NHS and alike) if we took care of ourselves first and foremost.
I couldn’t agree more Vicky, “Would it not be easier (and less expensive for the NHS and alike) if we took care of ourselves first and foremost.” I can’t see why anyone would disagree with that. That’s why though it is so empowering to know the difference between soul and spirit when it comes to illness and disease, because unlike our physical body that feels every bit of abuse and we would scratch our head as to why would we put it through that, our spirit gets something out of being wayward and not obedient and loving to the body.
I really like what is presented here that we can take a step further back and consider why human beings behave in a way that makes them ill, even though they know it will do so.
Thank you Eunice Minford and Serge Benhayon for this enlightening interview. We are so much more than bones and flesh, we are multidimensional beings.
Interesting question in the middle of this video as to where God comes into illness and disease and beautiful answer in relation to God (eternal pure love) and free will.
Understanding the difference between spirit and soul or even finding out that there is a difference is a total life changing experience. It makes sense of why we are able to do harmful things to ourselves like smoking, overeating and drinking alcohol when we are too much in spirit.
I so love that we are talking about this and raising awareness to the fact that there is a lot more than the world tends to admit. Like it is mentioned in the interview illness and disease is not miniscule, it is actually a huge part of the 21st century and the majority, if not all of us suffer from an illness or disease of some sort. It is important that we are open and look at all aspects of life in order to arrive at the root cause because without the root cause, there is absolutely no way we could cure the symptoms that prevail in our lives.
If we consider true health as living a Soul connected, loving, joyful, vital life, then pretty much everyone suffers ill health. However, we have fallen so far from true health that we now only look at health from a relative point of view and so can say we are healthy just because we are less sick than others or can still function albeit with stimulation.
Yes, it’s crazy isn’t it. I am talking with my colleagues about killers such as cancer and we all seem quite desensitised. There are so many people affected by the disease and the majority are quite content with “we haven’t discovered the root cause yet”, we remain the helpless human beings who have to work really hard and fight whatever happens to us just because we don’t want to admit the fact of energy.
and we also bandy around all these statistic such as x million people will suffer from this or x thousand will experience this or that abuse and we seem to be immune to what these numbers really mean and how even 1 person experiencing any of these things is 1 too many.
It makes sense to look at the multidimensional world Serge Benhayon is talking about as it will help to find the true root of all our illnesses and diseases, and the reason for the waywardness we are in as a society.
If the spirit is left unnoticed of its existence it will continue in its excessive abuse to the human body that will show the suffering of this in illness and disease, a state of being in the human body that is actually not natural when we connect to our Soul instead.
It is interesting to consider that standard Western Medicine does not have all the answers, despite their wealth of knowledge. Considering the aspects of Spirit and Soul are well discussed in this interview.
As Serge presents if despite the fact that we have the most awesome medical industry ever doing a great job and yet we are still struggling with illness and disease, there must be something else going on – in his opening address he goes straight to the heart of what that something else is!
There is so much about human life and our world that simply does not make sense until we start to factor in the role of spirit and soul behind the scenes. Without looking at these areas we are keeping ourselves blind to an essential contributing factor in everything we witness in life.
it is a very unpleasant picture to consider that in the future their maybe amputee clinics just to keep up with the demand from obese diabetic patients.
We can predict or imagine all kinds of scenarios that could happen, but when we choose to let the wayward spirit to go its way unnoticed we will never know where we will end up as it will at any time come with a solution instead of showing its real face.
Our disregard for the vessel that we occupy is never ending! And, with the creation of new medical procedures to fix the side effects, why should we stop?
The level of wellness and vitality I feel today compared to how I felt before I attended Universal Medicine courses is huge. I am less exhausted and no longer suffer from a post lunch slump, I don’t get nearly as many colds and my skin and nails are in excellent condition.
Love it when stuff is explained beyond the physical but in such simple terms.
Truth is always simple 🙂
It makes so much sense that there is another complementary element in healing that goes further than the cure and treatment offered by traditional medicine. The energetic component can easily marry the physical part and together they offer true healing.
To understand and truly heal the illnesses and diseases that are so prevalent in the world, we have to look at the whole: body, mind, spirit and soul. To look at one part in isolation leads to a temporary fix or solution at best, and at worst, a burying of the issue so that we ‘think’ it’s fixed and it looks like it’s been dealt with, but actually is buried at a deeper level than ever before.
I have found that when ill those emotional spiritual ills come more to the fore. Thats what makes illness a suffering, not the physical ailment. Because when I heal the spiritual wound then my relationship with the physical illness is much more harmonious, I am willing to care for myself more rather than push on and ignore it all.
Great comment, Leigh. The spiritual wound brings in the ‘poor me’ factor and without that we simply accept the role we play and our part in getting and healing the illness.
Yes it’s the spiritual wound that has us ‘writhing in agony’ but once thats out the way you become more accepting of the process of being ill.
Finding the cause of much or all illness or disease has to be new knowledge as we currently don’t know many of those causes. That new knowledge therefore has to be – by definition – outside current scientific thinking. That doesn’t mean anything goes but it also doesn’t mean that nothing outside the current paradigm is acceptable.
I wonder if we have thoughts that are harming us and if we have thoughts and experiences that are very healing. It would be good to know where they come from.
This is a wonderful conversation and an important conversation that we can all begin to have within health care. I work in health care as a nurse and know many nurses and doctors working across many areas of practice. We are all finding similar things at present. The current workload: this has been increasing exponentially and with people with more complex conditions. Not just physically complex conditions with multiple diseases and conditions, but also complex from a psychosocial perspective also. Really what is the harm in simple discussions about the energetic perspectives to health care. What is there to lose?
This is a huge topic and one that turns on its head our current understanding of illness and disease today. Truly there has to be a reason as to why with all our modern day medical advances we haven’t been able to prevent our escalating illness and disease levels.
In spite of all the major advancements in western medicine, including incredible technology – there is question to be asked. Why are illness and disease statistics going ‘through the roof’ and increasing at alarming rates? Serge Benhayon is offering a deeper understanding of the energetic causes, that will in time be an integral part of modern day medicine.
Exactly Stephanie, we really have to get honest about how much is missing from the current views of medicine. Our illness and death rates show us how much we need to address all the reasons we become ill.
This helps us to understand what is behind illness and disease and that it comes from a wayward spirit – but in that is always the opportunity to ask ourselves – what is there to learn. And it is no longer about wanting the medical industry to fix us but rather about how we can work with our body and with medicine to truly heal.
“there is a missing element and this element can be married easily into the mainstream’ This is my personal experience and many of those around me. Universal Medicine, the ageless wisdom and it’s teachings are not against or in place of current mainstream medicine, but the part of it that is sorely missing at this point in time.
It makes absolute sense to me that the behaviours and way of the spirit has to be curtailed for the harm and abuse it is doing not only affects the human being it is occupying but it has an effect in some way to every one and every thing; a fact that when energetically sensed and felt has to make us stop and ponder, even for a brief moment, on the impact our every move makes in the world.
As this presentation explores to address the true cause of illness and disease we have to go deeper than just saying they arise from our lifestyle and ask why are we choosing those particular life style choices rather than just stopping them?
The consequences and suffering that we face after living in the disharmony of the spirit are a clearing from the body and there to support us to return to living harmony within the body and not as this interview clearly states an act of punishment or retribution. We cannot ever be condemned in any way, shape or form as we are love and only love at our core.
Some of us don’t like hearing about certain words like re-incarnation and energetic responsibility. But what about if we used the word LOVE. Love is one word we all understand and can relate to. So, relating Love to illness and disease could clearly support an understanding. For e.g. relating Love to when Serge and Eunice talk about why an innocent young child is born with or has from a very young age has an illness and disease. It is love that (hopefully) puts a stop to a behaviour that is not love and abusive towards the body in this person’s life as an adult in a life before. It is worth watching this film to understand the full picture because, when the full picture is comprehended all makes sense.
Clearly, there is so much more going on. With all the advancements in medicine, across all our modern methods of combating illness and disease including surgery, we are still unable to arrest the onset of it all and indeed stem the flood as illness and disease rates are rising at an alarming rate. Even if we are sceptical about energy and the concept of spirit and soul it is worth being open to having a look at it – if we don’t, what else is there apart from a continued downward trajectory that deeply impacts our collective quality of life?
This is a great interview that helps to grasp an understanding of what the spirit and soul actually is. It is worth while to contemplate how each of these play and have played a part in our lifestyle choices and the consequences that result in each. One day we will look back and say how did we not include this in the understanding of disease and illness.
What per cent of all of these amazing medical break-thru’s are for treating the results of our choices and their effect on our body?
Serge Benhayon brings an understanding here in a no-nonsense straight forward way the spiritual aspect of the human being that underlies the cause of illness and disease that at present is not addressed by the medical profession – as he says he just needs the space to express that understanding and the profession to explore objectively what he presents.
Having access to these videos and all that is shared in them, is a blessing in itself.
I can feel after viewing them how complete medicine is when it considers the energy factor in its approach.
What Serge shares makes so much sense and in my personal experience also WORKS. isn’t it worth giving it a go – what do we have to lose other than a lot of ill health!
Clearly Serge Benhayon is a huge fan of modern medicine and very appreciative of the current system so he does not offer an alternative to medicine, but a missing element that is complementary to the current model and very much needed.
Having worked in other areas of complementary health care, Serge being a fan of modern medicine is not something I heard a lot of in the areas of complementary health care I worked in. Ordinarily it was a ‘use it if absolutely need it but avoid it where possible’ approach. Where Serge’s perspective of embracing modern medicine and all it offers together with the esoteric principles to health care has been something that has very much allowed me to heal my own relationship with modern medicine. I love how he shares about surgery being healing, pharmaceuticals being healing etc. This is not the common belief amongst a lot of complementary healthcare practitioners. I also love how he explains how an illness and disease can be healing for the person.
What Serge Benhayon says just connects all the dots for me and makes sense of the whys for which the world seems to have given up having an answer for. And I can imagine a lot of resistance in accepting what is here being presented, but what I know from my own experience is that it is that resistance that is making life harder than it needs to be, and accepting love is actually not that bad after all.
Same here Fumiyo, what Serge presents makes sense. When I accept it my relationship with illness and disease changes and I actually heal quicker than ever.
Expanding our understanding of illness and disease with relationship to the body, spirit and Soul will not only support us on a personal level to truly heal (not only cure) but also support our medical systems that are struggling to keep up with the increase in disease. From my experience and with greater awareness of the body, spirit and Soulful nature there is nothing left a mystery if one chooses to respond to what the body is presenting with from the medical and energetic perspective.
We are worldwide acknowledging more and more the role of lifestyle in illness and disease but what we do not understand is why we live in a way that is consistency harming ourselves. We know of many of our habits that are not good for us and yet we still choose them. It is time we start asking the question of why, what is running us and our choices for us to be basically slowly killing ourselves on such a humungous worldwide scale.
As Serge says, we need to understand what is going on with illness and disease in the world today. Even though we know more about the physical body than ever before and we have 10 fold the medical abilities, we are on a downward sliding scale with health in general. If we know so much about the body, nutrition, exercise etc and we are still losing the battle, we need to start asking questions that bring us to another level of understanding.
There is so much more to our health and wellbeing than just the superficialities of our lifestyle. If we want to address lifestyle as the cause of illness and disease we cannot do so without the understanding of God, spirit and soul.