Improving our health = not limiting or controlling the word evidence.

by Eunice J Minford MA FRCS Ed, Consultant Surgeon, N.Ireland

 

Evidenced based medicine currently dominates the Western model but who decides what is ‘evidence’? Is it being controlled and limited by academia and /or commercial interests? Is anecdotal evidence of a person’s lived experience a valid form of evidence? If a person reports that their life has changed for the better as a result of an operation, a medication or a complementary healing modality – is that in itself a valid form of evidence? We are trained in medical school that the history of the patient is most important and where the gold lies…….why is it ok to accept this personal testimony when someone is ill but to ignore the same individual’s experience when they report what assisted them to recover? This interview with Serge Benhayon, begins the conversation on these topics.

 

 

Disclaimer: The topics covered in this interview go beyond what is accepted in the current paradigm of evidenced based Western Medicine and it is for the viewer to discern if what is shared is true or could possibly be true or not. Eunice Minford is a Consultant General Surgeon who works in the NHS in accordance with the principles of Western Medicine. She has a personal interest in exploring beyond the current paradigm of Western Medicine and has studied Esoteric Philosophy and Sacred Esoteric Healing with Serge Benhayon and Universal Medicine.  Esoteric Medicine understands life, illness and disease at the level of energy.

453 thoughts on “Improving our health = not limiting or controlling the word evidence.

  1. Evidence is a great thing but we need to be very clear on what defines evidence; when the definition is faulty or ignorant of all the aspects that make life what it is in its entirety we will make the falseness or reductionism our base. Then evidence-based medicine will fall short of what humanity needs to truly heal.

  2. Accepting anecdotal evidence of a person’s lived experience would mean validating the person’s truth – I can understand how that would be too empowering for the current society’s liking where everything relies on people being unwell and not content with life. Anything that would endow humanity total freedom and true power is likely to be dismissed/ridiculed/denied/attacked.

    1. I agree Fumiyo and it would also mean that ‘science’ and ‘research’ would not holdpower of being the experts over everyone meaning they would have to work to serve humanity rather than control it.

  3. Our bodies and the way we live are a walking petri dish with all we need to know completely observable to all who choose to look with the eyes of the inner heart and all the wisdom contained therein.

  4. Looking at life and our health at the level of energy makes so much sense and is the key to understanding and improving our health and the reality of lived experiences and recording this needs to be taken into consideration with the true value this offers humanity.

  5. If I represent all the various forms of evidence in healthcare today by standing with my arms as wide open, including the powerful single stories, the anecdotal and small studies – then on this representation those that make it to fulfil the criteria demanded in EBM (evidence based medicine) such as RCS (random controlled studies) would be the size of what passes through the eye of a needle, tiny in other words, and represents some really bizarre studies that barely resemble any clinical application at all anyway, along with the pharmaceutical industries big bucks studies where tiny marginal outcomes get talked up into facts costing our health services billions more for at best little benefit, and at worst horrible effects (so called side effects) that get ignored because of the fear mongering campaigns that fuel the whole thing. Madness if you ask me. I am fortunate that I work in the independent self-pay healthcare sector of bodywork, where people decide for themselves what to spend their money on, and when to come back based on their own results first and foremost.

  6. Until we start to appreciate our environment on an energetic level before all else we will not recognise truth, and the truth in terms of evidence or proof of what actually IS in this world, which includes medicine.

  7. I love that people who work within conventional medicine are also looking at the big picture here, concerning our energetic wellbeing. We know that life is more than skin and bone, we know that our health manifests how we choose to live and conversely flourishes in how we choose to live depending on the choice, so why not go there, liberate ourselves from only remedy and fixing to look deep at the root of our health and wellbeing.

  8. The fact that a doctor will accept a patient’s description of their illness as a component of their diagnosis yet does not equally accept their anecdotal testimony as to why they got well blatantly shows that the medical profession controls what is accepted as being true.

  9. It’s interesting that often we’re quite prepared to read a review of someone’s personal experience of using a product or service for our home for example, i.e. their personal testimony- and use this info to inform our purchasing decisions, yet when it comes to science, this word of mouth anecdotal evidence is dismissed so easily. I get the need for controlled trials and scientific experiments, but there has to be also space for people’s own experiences of treatments and modalities- and allowing people the freedom to choose what works for them and their own health.

  10. This is interesting, it got me pondering about how unsure people actually are considering trusting people’s word, it is like it does not mean anything, if someone says something that they feel. If we do not practise discerning the truth of what people share, we can very easily put everything in the basket of subjective and so negate the universality or truth of what someone is saying, because we choose not feel if it is true or not. It is like parents or teachers having two versions of an event and disciplining both students / children because they can not tell who is lying…because of this insecurity or lack clarity of reading the truth, patients / clients etc are put into the same basket, they can not be trusted, it is just a personal opinion or idea rather than feeling the truth of what they experience.

  11. ‘We are trained in medical school that the history of the patient is most important and where the gold lies…….why is it ok to accept this personal testimony when someone is ill but to ignore the same individual’s experience when they report what assisted them to recover?’ A great question and one for us all to ponder whether we have been to medical school or not, for don’t we see the same kind of hypocrisy across the board in many organisations and systems today?

  12. Even the topics and subjects we research are often determined by an agenda to achieve a certain outcome. No doubt there are areas of Science, humanities or even illness and disease that have not yet been fully studied, in avoidance of what the true conclusions may expose.

  13. So much time, energy and money is spent in the area of improving health and well-being, yet the answers are right under our noses in how we live. We would be wise to study this, and we can begin with noting what make a person feel truly vital, committed to life, full of purpose and with a joy of working with one another.

  14. The embracing and acknowledgement of actual reports of peoples lives and their lived experiences is surely better evidence than the manipulation and doctoring of engineered scenarios to suit the cause and outcome wanted. Bring back the reality of life and health can be brought to a new and real understanding of our livingness.

  15. The word evidence inspires a picture of a mountain that is solid and impressive. When we feel something in our body we know to be true, mountains pale into insignificance.

  16. It is such a good question – why do we accept personal history as evidence when someone is ill and yet discount it when someone describes how they turned around their health to more vitality? It is so illogical. When the world is getting sicker, it is time we had a much greater focus on lifestyle and listened when we had examples of lifestyle changes that work. The greatest gift we are given is free choice and that if we don’t want to change we don’t have to, but we should never vilify those who choose to bring more attention to their health and are finding benefits just because it doesn’t have a double blind control study to back it up. That is not remotely intelligent.

  17. We are all so blessed to be offered the truth Serge is presenting. Whilst known innately in us all, it is rarely connected to and much less brought out. Hence Serge speaking up is giving us all permission to re-empower ourselves and speak up too.

  18. This is such an interesting interview, I noted how diminishing it is towards human beings and their anecdotal evidence for science and medicine to suggest that their version of evidence is the only truth and for anything else to be disrespected. This ownership of the word evidence reminds of times in history where religion has owned their version of God and if you challenged that you may have been killed, tortured or imprisoned for being a heretic or a witch. We do need to be careful because money and or power can drive these limiting and controlling approaches, not the intention to truly serve humanity.

  19. In my personal experience, that which is experienced and felt within the body is a marker of true evidence and a foundation for deep healing to occur. Countless hours of debating and putting forth opinions of what is right and wrong from the mind brings knowledge, but not lived wisdom and evolution to return to love.

  20. True science embracing the results of peoples lives and their livingness is surely the way to go in a world facing a real health crisis in every field and overstressed resources. The answers are right in front of us and taking note of this from personal healing results makes absolute sense to everything and will change the world health situation dramatically for us all with the responsibility this asks for.

    1. Absolutely Tricia, with the world health crisis the last thing we need is people with vested interests influencing how we move forward, we need a shared common sense approach to live in a way that is supportive to our health and wellbeing, and anecdotal evidence is a good foundation for that.

  21. A doctor prescribes medication based upon how we describe our symptoms yet our anecdotes of personal healing that do not conform to ‘evidence based medicine’ are not accepted. Where is the logic in that?

  22. Evidence based medicine has resulted in huge improvements in medical understanding, which are not to be underestimated or ignored. However, one is illusion if one believes it has brought about healing.

  23. Great observation about how we can offer anecdotal evidence when ill, but not when well, or healing what was ill and living more vital and healthy. There are choices, worthwhile observations and practices that offer support, another way and true healing. There is no doubt people’s lived experience has worth that is currently under estimated and ignored by corporations and some sections of the scientific community.

  24. This form of science will accept a personal experience when it comes to the symptoms and conditions but not when it comes to the healing or solution. My experience of the Esoteric Healing modalities is that I am supported to heal myself.

  25. Where is the common sense when many in the medical and scientific community quickly dismiss anecdotal evidence? If someone has lived in a very disregarding way and their body has suffered as a result and then they change their lifestyle and their health issues disappear, that to me is evidence; true living evidence.

  26. It is undermining of a person’s lived experience to not accept anecdotal evidence. It is strange that we do not value or accept the validity of anecdotal evidence because we know that things such as wellbeing and quality of life are individual and subjective but still very valid.

  27. There is a huge debate in philosophy about what knowledge is, if we can ever truly ‘know’ something or be sure that something is true. To me, these arguments, while in some ways help us not to blindly follow science because science says its true, also take away from our ability to know, from lived experience, our truth. If I am more vital, joyful and present in life, if I sleep better and have better relationships, if I am more productive at work and need less distractions and outside stimulation than ever before, do I really need to worry about whether my experience is true, or have someone else come along and validate my experience of life scientifically? No, I will live and I will grow and continue to do what I am doing because I know it works – Me and my living way is the evidence.

    1. This is beautiful Rebecca and I agree that science has generally speaking got so caught up in proving beyond a doubt that something is true in an objective way that it has almost become a bit of an obsession to supposedly rule out all bias and subjectivity, but in this drive it has reduced evidence to such a narrow intellectual stream that it is actually limiting what we can learn and understand about ourselves and about life.

      1. I agree – while in some ways selecting different variables to measure can help us see how different things impact on something, it also stops us seeing how it really is in life, how all the variables interact and impact on each other.

    2. The truth is our minds will never be satisfied that something is true because they are unable to discern truth energetically. Only our bodies and the particles that make up our bodies can actually know or sense if something feels true as a vibrational quality or not.

      1. I agree – our minds are cold and hard and cannot comprehend the world and the universe in truth, because the universe is more than empty and cold facts – it is wonder and beauty and vast beyond measure – it takes more than mental knowledge to comprehend it

  28. I have often heard and used my self the phrase; if it works why mess with it? Word of mouth is normally another example of lived evidence. Both of these examples just feel right and have a built-in and lived authority that is usually enough evidence.

    1. Steve great point, what if true science embraced actual accounts from people and their lived experiences? The results could change the way we live forever.

  29. Picking and choosing evidence sounds an awful lot like bias and tailoring results to suit a need, as opposed to true, ‘reliable evidence’ – the whole picture.

    1. Yes, and for whose benefit is this? Surely if it were for the true good of the general public we would be given the whole picture. As it stands we don’t get the whole picture. So who is this evidence for?

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