by Gyl Rae, teacher, Scotland.
Recently I had a session with a very wise Esoteric Practitioner around my need to have children. What came up in our discussion was the question: had I ever been in a relationship where we seriously talked about having kids? I hadn’t, but I had had two abortions when I was younger, that if I am honest, I carried guilt around for years, and didn’t want people to know about in case of what they thought about me.
These thoughts can come from pictures, beliefs and ideals we are fed that having an abortion is the ending of life, from the imposition of the world’s ideals and beliefs and the Church – all of which can come through both women and men, where we are told a woman does not have rights over what she can do with her own body and the choices she makes.
Just recently, 4th of February 2017 – under a new law passed in the state of Arkansas, in the USA1, “A pregnant woman’s husband will have the power to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape”. How far lost are we that we can pass a law that allows a man to rape a woman and stop her from aborting the child? In this one law we are saying rape, abuse, and controlling a woman and her body are okay.
This is very similar to the control of a woman’s body and the lessening of women that we have seen throughout the ages in many institutionalised religions across the world, whereby, for example, women are deemed to be dirty when they have their periods, or that they are the lesser sex. Some may say, but ‘it’s her husband, of course he has a right’, but rape is rape no matter who commits the crime. Not to mention the fact that it is the woman’s body, therefore her choice.
Would we be allowed to pass a law giving women the right to stop their partners or boyfriend having a vasectomy? I think not. We would never be allowed to control or tell a man what to do with his reproductive organs – so why are women being denied the same right to choose?
Abortion laws and debates have been going on for a long time, we all know the cases we read about across the world every day, from abortion being illegal in Northern Ireland, even in cases of rape, or incest, the only time it is legally allowed is if the woman’s life is at risk – in fact in Ireland, both North and South, abortion is criminalised in most circumstances2 – to the new USA legislation that the recent President of America has passed stopping funding from foreign aid or non government organisations from supporting women financially to have abortions.3 Not to mention three bills passed, see below, in Indiana State that would restrict a women’s access to abortion.4 And note these are not all passed by men.
- Senate Bill 404, authored by Sens. Erin Houchin, Travis Holdman and Jeff Raatz, would impose restrictions on minors seeking abortions by removing, in some cases, a judge’s ability to ensure their privacy. Along with requiring parental consent, the bill would make it a criminal offence for a physician or a religious leader to counsel a minor on whether or not to have an abortion.
- House Bill 1128, authored by Rep. Ronald Bacon, would require that a pregnant woman be informed orally and in writing before a chemical abortion that the procedure could be reversed or stopped.
- Senate Bill 118, authored by Sens. Dennis Kruse and Liz Brown, would require a mandatory ultrasound before an abortion, and, notably, the bill would require the pregnant woman to view the foetal ultrasound imaging and listen to foetal sounds. Currently women can opt out of this procedure.
Note – The ultrasound mentioned above is transvaginal and is not medically required, thus it is subjecting women to an invasive and unnecessary procedure in an attempt to psychologically and emotionally manipulate her, or some might say, to bully her to change her decision.
Opponents to the bills say, “the bills serve no medical purpose and their sole purpose is to restrict women’s access to abortion.” “These bills are so unnecessary and don’t contribute to the safety of the procedure,” said Sue Ellen Braunlin, co-director of the Indiana Religious Coalition for Reproductive Justice. 4
Do any of the anti-abortion bills, lobbies, demonstrations, charities, companies really take into account the feeling and choice of the woman and her body – or are they solely built on ideals and beliefs from institutionalised religions, with many of them more in keeping with the Dark Ages than the 21st Century?
What if having an abortion was actually taking a deep level of responsibility?
Never once did I consider or even given myself credit for the level of responsibility I took to have an abortion. Some may say, ‘well you should have taken more responsibility to not get pregnant in the first place’, and yes I agree, but we all make mistakes. The choice I made was not selfish, and not solely about me, but the foetus as well. Deep down in my body I absolutely knew and know the level of responsibility and integrity I want to have a child with, and the responsibility I have and want to parent them in. I was not and I am not willing, to bring a child into this world in a loveless and abusive relationship or out of pure need. I knew in my circumstance this was the correct and most loving choice to make. I took everything into account.
So the question I would ask when all things are considered, is, are many, if not all of these women who choose to have abortions actually making a very loving and responsible choice for themselves and others?
Given that it is their body, their life, and a choice they will have to live with for the rest of their life, is it not their right and choice to make it?
References
- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/arkansas-abortion-law-that-will-let-rapists-sue-victims-husbands-second-trimester-a7561066.html
- https://www.ifpa.ie/Pregnancy-Counselling/Abortion-Irish-Law
- http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/abortion/315652-trump-signs-executive-order-reinstating-global-gag-rule-on
- http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/02/05/how-indianas-abortion-laws-could-change-trumps-america/97083560/
Read more:
- Abortion – choice and responsibility
- Abortion in N.Ireland – breaking free from the gags of silence.
Gyl, you’ve raised some interesting facts about abortion. To hear that laws are being passed saddens me. I’ve even heard of doctors being murdered because they carried out the surgical procedures of abortion, what is the world coming to…
I have come across a young girl who was gang raped in her country and when she arrived in Australia, it was too late to abort the pregnancy. The trauma that young girl experienced is probably beyond our comprehension. She then had to experience labour and systems were in place for the baby to be taken for fostering, just in case the mother decided to keep the baby!…
Now if we look at this case, what quality of life are we setting not only for the mother but also the baby?
We have much to learn about life, and these laws do serve a purpose to keep things in place but not for the purpose of controlling a person’s body part. There is much to ponder over with the rights and wrongs of one imposing on the rights and wrongs of another – Who is right and who is wrong? is the question I wouldn’t be pondering over, but: What is correct for that person at that given situation?…
‘Deep down in my body I absolutely knew and know the level of responsibility and integrity I want to have a child with, and the responsibility I have and want to parent them in. I was not and I am not willing, to bring a child into this world in a loveless and abusive relationship or out of pure need.’ If the pro life ideal was really about pro life, this concept would be at the heart of their awareness. Instead it comes from ideals and beliefs that do not consider the quality of life lived.
I see this more and more, people having a baby for the sake of having one as it is the done thing once you’re married. It’s kind of an expectation.
People often ask if I have children and there’s this awkwardness on their part when they hear, no. I’m okay with it and it has been my process, but the norm is still to have children. But if we allowed the space, we would understand the many reasons for people not having children, couldn’t, wouldn’t, wasn’t able to, didn’t want to. What ever their reasons, they are no lesser than the people with children.
It seems rather strange to me now that I could ever have thought that you were more of a someone, had achieved societal expectations if you had had a child. To me now, if there is someone who has decided not to have children because they know that they are not ready or know that they need to spend this life supporting themselves only, then they feel like much more responsible adults and actually rather ironically, better parents for making that choice then if they had made the choice to have kids for all the wrong reasons!
‘Just recently, 4th of February 2017 – under a new law passed in the state of Arkansas, in the USA1, “A pregnant woman’s husband will have the power to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape”. How far lost are we that we can pass a law that allows a man to rape a woman and stop her from aborting the child?’ Extremely lost indeed as with the other Bills you have enlightened us on here. There is no room for this dark age mentality or energy here any more. Calling it out and exposing it for what it is with no reaction or attachment will start to change this. It is important to get to the bottom or root of such ideals and beliefs (seeing them as energy first) so they have no place to hold onto or hide, therefore can no longer be.
A woman’s body is beyond the parameters of right and wrong. This attempt to control women and their bodies has only brought misery and harm to society.
‘I am not willing, to bring a child into this world in a loveless and abusive relationship or out of pure need’ – this line says it all really. How often as women do we get stuck in the belief that we cannot abort a fetus due to all the external pressures regardless of what we would want. It’s never an easy decision to make but sometimes it is the right one for that woman and the man at that time.
What you are sharing here Gyl is huge. The impositions women face from men and society is brutal and ugly but dressed up as moral. Perhaps the key to unlocking all of this isn’t to react or retaliate, shut down or feel like victims but for every woman to connect to her innate essence, appreciating the power in her delicacy and fragility empowering her to be all that she is and to say no to abuse on every level that life metes out.
When they form these laws and bills do they consider the lifelong damage and harm to the child? I’m not even talking about children being abandoned or adopted but living with parents who didn’t want them or were prepared to give them a loving and caring parenting. Life for the sake of life – but what’s the quality of that life?
A great subject to bring to the table, and as you have highlighted, one that is deemed to be unacceptable still in so many countries/circumstances. It would be so interesting to know though how many of those children born as a result of not being aborted have self worth issues that go on to affect their entire lives. If we were to look at it from this angle, perhaps the issue of abortion and responsibility would eventually become normal and acceptable.
Laws like the ones you mention are archaic and totally at odds with the natural equality of women and men, but it seems that counts for little in some parts of the world. These laws simply serve to keep women in a constant state of lack of self-worth and totally disconnected from the beautiful beings they are. I wonder who gains from this illogical stance? Humanity and the world certainly don’t.
We are seeing an increasing number of cases where parents are not able to cope with being a parent and abuse their own child in all kinds of manner – sure, they are being criminalized, but criminalizing them do not stop it from happening or address why there are more cases. Bringing a life into the world is not something that can be framed two dimensionally, and the laws of our societies do not encompass all aspects of our beingness in their makings.
It is every person’s – woman or man – right and responsibility to choose how to treat their own body.
How truly responsible are we being when we bring a child into this world out of our need to be loved by somebody? Have we considered the impact this may have on the child that has come into our lives? Many parents are not actually mentally, physically or financially capable to bring a child into this world, but our societal “should’s” come with so much pressure that honouring what we feel is true almost becomes not an option.
I’ll be 30 next year, prime time to have children in the eyes of some. A lot of my school friends have kids now, my mum had me when she was 28. If I was affected by what the world expects of me I reckon I’d be having more thoughts about having a child by now. But I don’t because I know it’s a psychological, social, financial, physical responsibility that does require all of me for the next half of my life possibly. It’s a huge responsibility I don’t feel to have as yet (and if not then that’s not an issue either). It’s a big commitment to have a child and I’d say we need more education before considering a child rather than being pushed into it by the “shoulds”.
It takes a lot of honesty to decide to have an abortion, and I would imagine that it can feel like a lonely place when there is no support, it makes you realise how we all have a responsibility to support others who have to make these kind of choices.
Yes there is no right or wrong to it, it is very much a choice to be made dependent on the circumstances and most importantly the woman’s own intuition or inner knowing but sometimes to get to that we need the support of another presence and open heart.
In essence we are all the same, we come in different genders but energetically we all have female and masculine sides. Why all the focus on the differences that give men somehow the right to inequality and to tell a woman what she should or cannot do. Yes, we live in different bodies and women can carry babies but no one is more than another and women should be able to choose for themselves.
There is so much more around abortion rather than the slogans preached by many; and in each case it’s individual and for each woman to decide what is needed given her specific circumstances; and yes abortion can be a deeply responsible choice and this is not something we really discuss … we need to broaden the discussion here and let go the judgement and bring greater understanding to what is needed. And as a basic every woman should be free to choose how and what she needs without imposition from either law or religions.
The imbalance in the world, in society, in all aspects of our lives, is there to be seen on so many levels. This is why we need to truly attend to ourselves first so we can feel what is actually going on.
I do absolutely think that abortion can be a truly responsible choice and that it’s really important for all women to be supported to feel what is true for them or at the very least not be imposed on to think that she would be ‘wrong’ to have an abortion.
Until humanity knows, experiences, that our bodies truly belong to the divine, there will be very little reflection of the true truth in our lives, and in the way we live.
Having been through the experience of a medical abortion a few years ago, we were very supported by the doctors around us who actually encouraged it rather than the opposite. And it was a healing on many levels for all of us involved in it. One of the things I discovered after having it when talking with others is how common abortions and miscarriages are – I thought before they were very rare but found out they are very common and most women I spoke to had had one or the other, much to my surprise. Something I also found is how much guilt and shame many of us carry with us as a result which shows how affected we are and have been by the dogma that abortion is a sin etc.. When it is every woman’s right to say yes or no regardless of the situation.
It is incredible how much effort gets put into disempowering a woman. Not allowing a person to make up their own mind and act upon their own accord is simply a violation of basic human right.
I agree Fumiyo it sure is a violation of a basic human right. It is a massive responsibility to bring a child into the world and one no one should ever take lightly.
In some countries it’s evident that the current laws relating to abortion, amongst many other subjects, are far from what would actually support humanity. We have a responsibility to be the voices that pull the current legislation up to truly represent and police what is true and not true, respectful or abusive.
Great piece of writing, thank you. What I find interesting is the fact that all the people who write these laws that restrict or bully women seem to fully believe that they are on the right side of right, that they are acting in the most morally good way they can. And this is what is perhaps most insidious, because how can one thing be considered good or righteous or whole, when it causes obvious and maybe at times immeasurable, harm to another person?
That is a great point. So often people who bully and impose are convinced they are “right”. There is no love in that kind of righteousness and it is not even right for the only true right is one that is come from and with love.
I would imagine in many cases that it is a very difficult decision for women to decide to have an abortion, and the decision would not be made lightly, it is a huge responsibility for women to make, and they should be fully supported for their decision.
It is crazy that our society believes it owns women and their bodies the way it does, we are still living in the dark ages when it comes to truly supporting women in what they bring to the world….
I know it’s a bit off topic but….. I was recently talking with a friend who went to America and the stories she told of what she witnessed I found very shocking. She expressed how visible it was there was no government supported health care/income support system due to what she viewed on a daily basis in different states. I found this shocking as the world tends to view America as a leader of the world in setting standards/trends… This is a scary understanding at present!!!!
“We would never be allowed to control or tell a man what to do with his reproductive organs – so why are women being denied the same right to choose?” Everyone should be allowed the right to choose what happens to their bodies – whether it be vasectomy, abortion, medical treatment or vaccination etc. being responsible is the important factor. Yet how responsible are we when it comes to our daily living – re our food choices, exercise, drinking and drugs etc?
Every man and woman should have their right to make decisions about their own body without laws or judgements passed on them. It is not what is right or wrong, but what is true for us.
Absolutely Doug. We do ourselves a dishonour if we do not give ourselves space to contemplate such things.
Gee its a messy world we live in when you consider all the contrasting and at times barbaric and nasty ideals and beliefs that drive people in their attempt to control another’s free will.
Well said Suse!
‘What if having an abortion was actually taking a deep level of responsibility?’ This needs to be honoured. To have a child that you are not ready for is the ultimate in irresponsibility.
I agree there is a lot of responsibility in abortion, and it should be a woman’s right ALWAYS to be able to choose what happens to her body, and to choose to live with that responsibility. I experienced a medical termination 2 years ago, which is when the medical profession do tests and find the baby is not right and the doctors I met in the NHS were actually amazing and encouraged the termination, which allowed a totally guilt free process and for me to take responsibility and to learn exactly what I needed to.
And in some places in the world, homosexuality is still illegal and severely punished… We have a long way as a species, to travel, and yet everyone has the spark of the divine, just waiting to be lit.
Perhaps we need to pause and draw breath to ask ourselves which is the more loving act – to not bring a child into this world that is unable to be cared for in the way they deserve OR, to bring a child into this world that will become the subject of much abuse? Because we choose to live in ignorance to the great cycle of life, and have subscribed to the lie that is ‘death’, we allow all manner of emotions to cloud a very simple decision. If the child in this case will not be born unto us, they will go back and be born unto another. It is the nature of the Universe and the part we play is in upholding the responsibility we each have for making decisions that are in the best interest of all. We are still very much divided when it comes to this understanding.
“If the child in this case will not be born unto us, they will go back and be born unto another. ” This line holds the understanding as to why we have this emotional debate around abortion, in that it is a universal truth that we reincarnate and yet humanity in large part have dismissed this truth as unprovable fables, hence why we have this situation where those who believe we live and then we die, full stop, fight so hard to deny the right of the would-be parent/s to decide whether it is true for that spirit to return into their family at that time.
A woman knows her body and what is needed – there is no right or wrong, good or bad, these are just convenient ideals so that people can have opinions. There is only truth, and truth is simple and perfect, whatever the outcome.
Men feel threatened by the power in women and women feel threatened by the power of other women and even of their own power. There is power and glory in the stillness and grace of a woman. When we dare to connect to this and live it we bring about clearing and healing there is no doubt. Just walking down the street in this energy we are clearing and healing, whatever we touch or come into contact with we are healing, the ramifications of this are enormous.
It is almost impossible to credit too that this year in NSW Australia,Parliament recently voted NO to what would have been landmark legislation to decriminalise abortion. It is astounding to think that the woman’s uterus – the sacred grail – can be in the clutches and domination of a legal system and government, who will not allow the woman to have a choice over whether she is ready to have a child or not? there is no right and wrong in abortion, it just IS. The only right and wrong is that judgmental thought paradigm that is ingrained in the human psyche and passed on from generation to generation like a contagion, then further embedded in our schooling. Through this absolute lie can come the energy which wishes to annihilate the power, stillness and beauty of woman, because of the healing effect it has upon our race.
I read this blog a while ago and was shocked that this is occurring in 2017? I mean really, how can we champion women’s rights, give two big thumbs ups to ourselves for pay increases and all women football teams (which BTW is nothing to do with true equality but that is a whole another blog), how can we celebrate how far we have come whilst female genital mutilation and spousal rape is happening legally to women somewhere in the world?
I love that you are asking these questions, below a quote from this amazing blog.
“How far lost are we that we can pass a law that allows a man to rape a woman and stop her from aborting the child? In this one law we are saying rape, abuse, and controlling a woman and her body are okay.”
We are lost and we are far gone but what is more disturbing is that this is not reported on and discussed as a constant until change occurs.
Everyone has their own reasons to have an abortion or not, and it’s in that freedom of choice where we find and take the responsibility of our actions.
I don’t feel its an easy decision for any woman and then having others give their opinion or make judgement serves no-one. It is very imposing, as you share a woman should have rights over her own body and life.
Having a child is a massive responsibility and if a woman is not ready or without capacity to take that responsibility on then the harm that can be caused by having that child can be sometimes beyond belief. Having worked in child protection I am aware of families with strong religious values that stop them from having contraception let alone an abortion, as such they can have multiple children when in truth they should not have any due to the neglect and abuse that the children endure… resulting in them often being removed and placed into care. By the time they have been removed they are usually traumatized from often months or even years of abuse and playing out horrific behaviours as a result of the trauma. This culminates in a substantial burden and expense on society. All of which could have been avoided if the woman was given a true choice free of religious doctrines and beliefs in the first place.
So well said Samantha and working alongside children’s social services I see this played out a lot as well. Having children is a HUGE responsibility and this is something we all truly need to understand and not take either lightly or flippantly. Someone recently shared with me they thought that parents or a parent if single should have a licence in order to be a parent and I understand why they said this and that it is in line with it is a massive responsibility.
I agree Gyl women should have the right to choose if they want an abortion or not, it should be the responsibility of the woman to discern for herself, taking everything into account, how can others make any decisions that would affect another so dramatically, it just doesn’t make sense that we are going backwards rather than forwards.
Having a child through sheer feelings of guilt just to appease others/society, would surely have an effect on the child and the mother’s relationship because of the array of mixed emotions that the mother would be carrying.
When reading this again, it brought to the forefront all of the women who have had babies under the rules of religion. Some women have had babies after babies due to their religion – isn’t this another way to control and tell the woman it may be your body but we own it, along with putting a guilt trip on them for even thinking about having an abortion.
Having an unwanted pregnancy is already a dilemma to be caught in; to exacerbate it by disempowering women to make the right choice for themselves, is unacceptable in today’s age.
Gyl, thank you for being so honest and sharing this, what you write about is happening all over the world, many women feel shame and guilt after having an abortion, these emotions then fester and harm.
It is never a decision that is taken lightly and in this day and age it is shocking that a woman’s body is still looked upon as being owned by someone else.
The decision to have a child or not have a child demands exactly the same level of responsibility. The fact of having become pregnant and then making the choice has been held against women for much too long while men making such judgment never considered themselves to be responsible but free to walk away and leaving the pregnant woman alone with the physical and moral dilemma.
Regardless of the circumstances of a pregnancy, all women should be lovingly supported to make whatever decision they deem is the right one for them, whether that is to abort or to continue with the pregnancy. Every being should have the right to choose, in all medical procedures, when it comes to making decisions in regard to their own body.
A woman’s body belongs to her so it is her and her alone that has a right to make a decision about abortion.
I keep coming back to this blog Gyl becase I feel just how powerful it is, and really love what you have shared, just how much resonsibility can be displayed and lived from deciding to have an abortion, we as women deserve the right, no matter what to decide.
What if having an abortion was actually taking a deep level of responsibility? A great question to put out there Gyl. Truth is a very loving choice to make.
If we consider the accountability of being a parent:, i.e. putting our hand up to:
– physically take care of another being while they are too young to be able to do it,
– support them to connect to, appreciate and live their true essence in a world that does not encourage that,
– offer a role model of living that true way
this is not something to take lightly. If we are not ready for it, we do need to gracefully admit that this is not the right time and take appropriate action. An abortion when truly chosen is an absolute moment of responsibility.
Where do these beliefs even come from, I remember years ago saying to myself that if I ever got pregnant I would never have an abortion – now I question that picture. It seems there are too many things in life that we do not question and blindly follow.
My feeing is that the more women suppress abortion and keep it secret if it happens to them, the more we feed the fact that women don’t deserve the right to choose what happens to them. By suppressing it – we choose to feed the abuse from the bottom up.
There seems to be so much implied ownership to a woman’s body with all these laws defining what can or can’t be done… Where is the voice of Women in all these laws?
Do we ever question as to whether our choices are based on ideals and beliefs we have taken on from outside of ourselves? That we are to give birth no matter what because of a belief or doctrine we have chosen to align to without first discerning as to whether it was true for us? There are always consequences when we do not listen to our body regardless of what we thought was the right thing to do.
Thank you Gyl. This is a very insightful article… Brief, to the point, on such an issue that has caused so much conflict. Your insight upon personal responsibility is profound, and really this is where this must stay… Is a reflection of personal responsibility and personal choice… No one else’s.
Why would a woman choose abortion? Is it just a case of deflection of another issue like self harm or harming another is? If that was the case, the woman would need love, understanding and tender care as a support to find her truth again. Or could it be that the choice is made with an awareness and understanding of responsibility and honouring of what being a parent involves? Either way, the bigotry of marginalising and condemning a member of our community is not the answer, a conversation with genuine love, care and openness offers expansion and evolution.
When we bind ourselves up with ideals and beliefs and doing the so called, right thing, we are really operating under a man made system that seeks to control and manipulate the masses into guilt and shame. Where is the love, truth or evolution in all of that?
I really support all that you have shared here Gyl, that abortion is and can be all about responsibility, not about letting go of a life, but making choices for all involved.
We all have the right to choose how we live and what happens to our body – it is part and parcel of our responsibility.
Abortion comes loaded with so many beliefs and societal norms that it would be easy to go into guilt and regret. The church and our politicians would do well to reduce the weight of this process that most women go through by promoting freedom of choice for women and their bodies, rather than the draconian beliefs and legislation they create.
I found it very shocking to hear how backward and controlling some governmental and religious laws are around abortion, still existing today; a cycle returning from the Dark Ages.
All woman should have a right over their body whether to have an abortion or not.
There is still a strong consciousness in our world that tells us that women do not have a right to their own bodies nor their own innate expression. In some cultures it is blatantly obvious and in some it all seems very civil. But none the less it is still present everywhere and before we can have sensible discussion on how to approach these kinds of subjects we need to call out and arrest the energy that is aimed at keeping the sacredness of women suppressed.
The problem with the viewpoints of anti abortionists is that they do not understand life in full nor do they understand the science of reincarnation. If all emphasis is placed on the 1 life then of course people will think they need to fight for it. We are born again and again and again, we choose who we are born with and all of our cycles come with a purpose. Nothing is coincidental so if there is truth in a mother having an abortion so too is their truth for the spirit that will then not incarnate in that exact moment.
This reminds me of the period in my life when I was anti- medication of any form. I thought ‘natural’ and ‘honouring’ meant rejecting the support that our medical system could provide. I am so grateful for the support Serge Benhayon’s teachings offered in opening up my perspective and see a much fuller picture. I can see the same with the anti-abortionist view you describe. When we hang on to a blinkered view of life we get stuck in some crazy limited ideas about the world.
I find it staggering reading those cases you share, I suppose it is to be expected at a time when women around the globe are starting to reconnect to their sacredness there has to be an equal and opposite force, nothing else really explains why our legislation around the world would be going backwards.
Hear Hear Gyl, “What if having an abortion was actually taking a deep level of responsibility?” I so agree, what if having an abortion can be a deeply responsible choice. I know that it isn’t at times for women, but it can be and fundamentally ALL women no matter what the choice, deserve to make that choice for themselves.
Thank you Gyl for your clarity on this. I’m sure it will support others who are in this predicament.
This casts a light on a subject that is not commonly talked about, and when it does come up emotions run high and people do think clearly, only from the emotional upset and turmoil. It’s been very cool to read this balanced account Gyl, exploring some of the complex issues from the perspective of love first.
America has the CDC, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention collect data on abortions only from states that wish to provide information? In the home of the free, it seems to depend on what state you live when it come to abortions!
Abortion is not something a that is commonly talked about maybe because of the fear of judgment but also an understanding of the seriousness of the decision that each woman makes. It does amaze me that when one woman brings it up how many are ready to share there is still a disconnect on how we hold this experience in our bodies.
It’s a sad state of affairs when our Government in 2017 are forming a coalition with a political party the DUP in Northern Ireland who are openly against abortion – and a country which still holds abortion as illegal. Dark ages have never changed.
The clamping down on abortion is completely devoid of the more expanded appreciation of the energetic dynamics at play when considering incarnation, birth and responsibility.
Also the lack of understanding of relationships, responsibility and choice between, not only the parties present in flesh, but also those involved on the etheric plane, in such very emotive circumstances of miscarriage and cot death as well as abortion, has been crippling humanity for eons and has blocked true healing and profound learning offered from such experiences.
Instead of vilifying and clouding these areas with emotions and bullying tactics, we ought to collectively openly discuss, support one another and deepen our awareness and understanding.
This is a big issue, no human would want to end the life of the other with no feeling around it, it is an issue for any woman who makes the choice, and I am sure they have a great awareness of the responsibility of it. It is awful that women are attacked so, when they are making such a choice. It can be deeply responsible to decide to have an abortion and we should judge no woman.
This is a topic that needs to be discussed and exposed for the current laws do not support nor honour women and are harmful, ill-conceived and undermine a woman’s knowing of her own body and authority to do what is needed.
This topic is enormous and on its own shows just how far away we are in terms of living with true equality and true love.
If I put myself into the position for one moment of being brutally raped and then not being allowed to abort the pregnancy, feels absolutely in the dark ages, adding insult to injury. And maybe the people making these bills should pause for a moment to feel what they would feel if it happend to them or their wife or daughter, as this would provide a different perspective for them.
Has the world gone crazy? How can a woman be raped, and then not allowed to abort a pregnancy that is a result of that rape? There is much for us to learn as a global society about life, honouring one another, and true respect.
I can remember debating about this in my high school philosophy class, and how even then at young ages, people were divided by their opinions and beliefs around the morality of abortion. I have been on the fence at times and even wondered if perhaps it wasn’t right, and maybe it shouldn’t be allowed. But for me it has been my experience of the real world and how it is that has convinced me that abortion is a needed part of today’s society – we already have enough children suffering at the hands of parents who don’t really want them, had them for their own personal reasons, are unloving, abusive, ignore them, push them to be doing things they don’t want to and all manner of other behaviours that occur in families that can scar and affect children their entire lives. Given that this is the reality, it is clear that this does not need adding to by removing the option people have to abort a pregnancy before it becomes a child that then needs to suffer the consequences of a family that are not loving – it is the ultimate responsibility to admit that having a child is not something you are ready for. Failing this aspect, it is a person’s right to do as they wish with their body and their health.
What if the sprit doesn’t enter the foetus until after twelve weeks or more? Would knowing this make a difference?
Responsibility I think starts with ourselves and making choices that are self caring and self nurturing and consider the all in each situation.
There are a lot of controlling beliefs held around women’s reproductive systems – including periods and menopause. The sacredness and true beauty of a woman is always there.
‘Would we be allowed to pass a law giving women the right to stop their partners or boyfriend having a vasectomy…’ The ridiculousness of the situation is highlighted in this one question.
Children are a huge responsibility and I don’t think anyone realises quite the extent of it until we have children of our own or have the full time care of a child or children. I certainly felt like the first time I really grew up was when I had my son – it was only then that I really got to appreciate more fully the level of responsibility that we are actually capable of stepping up to whilst being parents. And I also got to deeply appreciate my own parents for having brought me and my sister up, and all that they did do for us and the warmth that they were able to give us despite all of life’s challenges that they took on.
Abortion is indeed a responsibility. If a woman is not in a position to parent a child it is actually irresponsible to bring a child into this world – for the child, for the mother and for everyone else.
How often are we clouded by the ideals and beliefs of saying yes to pregnancy when our body and lifestyle choices are saying the opposite. What are the ideals and beliefs that feed the need to accept what others impart rather than stopping to take note of what we truly need to learn?
From where I view it at this point in time, it is not so much whether it is a responsibility or not to have an abortion, but that each woman should be free to choose which way they go and not be made a criminal one way or another and be forced to get an illegal abortion.
Love to me is a key, so that if I was asked did I have any children I would always answer, that if I did not know how to love myself how could I bring love to another especially a baby. When asking other about love I could never get an answer that was fully engaging until I listened to Serge Benhayon on love. It is possible that to have a baby when true love is in the relationship, that the child will be nurtured and given every opportunity to develop into a truly loving being?
Beautiful sharing Greg Barnes…..
Would we then nurture this child in a way to never belittle it but by sharing with loving discipline that allows the baby the space to develop a true relationship with it so that it is treated as an equal and never lesser than any adult?
The more we can hold ourselves with love we are able to make decisions that support not only ourselves but all when we make it about what is true rather than what feeds the ’emotional truth’.
This is gorgeous Greg – I agree with you wholeheartedly. The more I have worked on a loving relationship with myself the more I can hold my own children in love (and everyone else too). To me it is a huge act of irresponsibility to bring a child into the world if this is not in place, or there isn’t the intention to work on this.
Very true Michelle, Love can not be exclusive, and once it is truly lived it is such a simple response to anyone asking the question about Love.
I really appreciate what you are saying here Greg, surely it is every child’s right to grow up feeling nurtured and respected for everything they are and all that they bring. I have come to understand that we are so much more than we allow ourselves to be and this seems to get crushed from a very early age. Imagine how society would interact and be if we were all raised in a true loving relationship. There would be no room for abuse of any description.
Wow! This is great Mary, what you have added is another depth so we can expand the re-development of being Loving. Simply from the aspect of how nurturing it can be in any Loving relationship and not only for the couple but also the siblings, as we all get the blessing from those around us being Love. Then as you correctly say, what would this be like in the broader world, there would be no abuse.
So often sympathy and emotional support override the true decisions many people make when it comes to deciding to follow through with a pregnancy. I have heard so often others share how they felt pressured to have a child that they knew they couldn’t support to the levels that were needed.
Such laws as the new law passed in the state of Arkansas are usually made by men who do not see things from the woman’s angle and so they impose such things on the women. But women are not innocent victims, they have the choice to stand up and speak up, and the more each of us do this, the less we can be imposed on by men or women and the ideals and beliefs which drive them to make such unloving acts.
Yes we need to stand up and speak up for every single small level of disregard and abuse wherever we feel it happening whether it is directed to us or anyone else, man or woman. The complacency responding from this innate deep sensitivity allows the wayward and loveless energy to take root and spread. We have the power to stop it in its tracks, and when we don’t it hurts both men and women.
All women deserve to be given the grace and support to decide what they feel is true for them, without interference or imposition.
Thank you Gyl I like your take on abortion leaving all the emotional drama out and bringing it back to the responsibility we have. We need to learn to honour our bodies to then make decisions from there, instead of issuing more and more bills that only serve to keep things under control but leave no room for learning and self responsibility.
The prohibition of a woman’s right to abortion has been an area of contention that so evilly uses ‘moralistic’ ‘high righteous’ language to pump up its case. There is nothing more sickening than ‘true good’ being perverted into false ‘good’ – the ‘good’ that so many of us have fallen for on earth. In reality there is only vibration and energetic ‘good’ which is truth and love – neither of which can be found in the case for anti-abortion.
How bizarre is it that we have to justify that we have the choice of what to do and what happens to our own bodies! It is bizarre if it was not so serious and real. We live in the ‘free’ world, yet there are still laws which restrict choice. It makes me question how much we are manipulated that we have taken as normal.
We shouldn’t need to put abortion laws into context or compare them to how men’s bodies are treated, rules of vasectomy’s etc. because they are absolutely absurd regardless! Every person should be free to choose what happens to them and their body without being subjected to limiting terms by the government.
We have to consider very deeply the impact on society now and in the future taking away the right of a woman to decide what happens with whether or not to bring in a child into this world. Such an imposition affects us all. To not honour a woman’s rights of her own body and imposing such a huge event that is childbirth if not wanted is a a crime. A crime and to the child too. This feels like institutionalised rape to me on the level that it is the abhorrent abuse of another but backed up by the government so there is no call to reprieve. Very sinister.
This blog raises some important and uncomfortable questions about parenthood. Are we choosing to have children out of need or relief or for our own benefit or to fit in? Or are we choosing to have and raise children knowing they will be the next generation who will be leading the way in changing the world to be a more loving place to live?
Having children is a massive responsibility for me it brings up all the ways that i have been living and settling for less than love. Because a child when truly prepared for will bring up every area where you are not being love because they are love just like we all are in essence. The question arises do we really want to go there. And if we are not ready it brings up resistance and then we end up fighting or putting the child down – so it is much better to say ok I am not ready at this moment in time then to go ahead with something you know you cannot bring your all to and truly nurture. After all most of us cannot even look after ourselves with the love we deserve and innately know so how can we bring that to another?
A very responsible sharing Gyl on abortion and all that goes on around it. The rules and bills passed and stigmatism around rape, sexual abuse and abortion is enormous and very unloving and uncaring of all women and children alike and very different to the responsibility and true understanding you offer here and great to appreciate and reflect on.
There is a deep and evil seed planted in the consciousness of humanity that’s facilitated these evil and grotesque laws that prevent a woman having control over her own body. And that seed is around stopping of evolution of our race. That it is, in the 21st century, still manifesting in law truly cannot be credited.
These laws are a way of controlling women. Obviously there is an under current knowing that women embody a natural poise, a sacredness, and inner strength that for some reason causes such constraints and law to dismantle this natural expression.
Why is there such a strong need to control women and their choices over their bodies. What have we not claimed as women? What does the world need to hear to understand the devastation they are causing?
It is a very important issue to consider, why is there more influence and control over women than men and in particular what happens to their bodies?
Our ideals and beliefs can lead us to make choices not based on love but following expectations, duty and obligations.
I love your question Gyl, it provokes much heartfelt pondering;
“What if having an abortion was actually taking a deep level of responsibility?” Such a pity our law makers do not allow and encourage people to make their choices out of a deep level of responsibility.
The big picture in life is to return to what is Love. No matter what our choices have been and are, we are all returning to love. Would berating ourselves for any choices be loving? I feel not. But how do we deal with the very real emotions that come with our choices? The devastation we feel in our choices is necessary, so that we will learn in the patience of love, that any lovelessness does not belong to us. We do make mistakes and the point is not to cover up or give ourselves excuses, but to absolutely feel that even the tiniest choice without love should not exist in this world.
These laws are an incredibly dark way to control and suppress the divine radiance and power women hold within. A tactful ploy to delay the change women will ignite.
When I read through these bills you shared with us, I was struck with what a complete waste of time and energy these bills are. We need to stop passing laws on what women can or cannot do with their bodies. It diminishes women and their right to choose what do with their own bodies. Thank you for writing on this topic.
The fact is there is always two choices to make – well one in fact – we either choose love or if not we knowingly have chosen to say yes to everything else that is not love.
Reading all the laws that are in place and the way that women (and men) are treated surrounding abortions shows just how much needs to change in our relationship with abortion. The choice of abortion should be that of the women and not in a way that they feel guilty over making a choice but that they can see the responsibility of whatever choice is made. In simple terms why go through with a pregnancy if its not something that feels true to do?
It’s very strange that certain religions and cultures and nations get very het up about abortion yet think nothing of sending their children and adults off to be killed in war or by acts of terrorism in defence of that same religion or culture or nation. It doesn’t make sense.
An abortion undertaken with all care and consideration feels to me 100% more responsible than a child born out of emotional need.
I fully agree Victoria, there may also be medical reasons as well and so no one should ever be judged for having an abortion. Nor should we unnecessarily continue pregnancies when we know the child will have major medical problems just because we want a desire to have a child so much we over-ride what we know is the most loving thing to do.
It must add so much to the trauma of incest, rape or even an unwanted pregnancy to be unable to have an abortion if that is what you choose. Laws like those mentioned in Ireland, add to the stigma, guilt and feelings of being judged that a woman must experience when considering an abortion. Do we really want to go back to the days of illegal abortions where so many women’s reproductive organs were damaged, infected or their lives lost through backyard abortions?
Given the state of our world today, to bring child into this is a great responsibility, not solely by the mess, lovelessness, rot and lack of care we live in, but can you bring up a child to honour and stay true to themselves and not enjoin this lovelessness?
Taking responsibility for our choices in this way, is hugely loving, supportive and evolving for all concerned.
What this brings us to is a sense of greater responsibility, to connect to the truth in every situation and do away with rules and laws that dishonour what is the best for all concerned.
There are many cultures that have throughout history had the drive of expanding their rule by conquering as much land as possible. There have been also those who have wanted to out-populate everyone else and over run the world. There are still some of this type of consciousness lingering today in pockets of humanity and when they have the force of religion or the state behind them watch out.
It does not make sense that when they are facing such a sensitive and challenging time of their life, people are subjected to judgment, pressure and bullying, instead of understanding, care and support which they so sorely need.
‘Not to mention three bills passed, see below, in Indiana State that would restrict a women’s access to abortion. And note these are not all passed by men.’ – I find it interesting how fellow women can go along with these bills, what is it they are trying to prove?
My point exactly Doug – why do women go along with it, and particularly women that are in positions and have the authority to make an instant difference, as is the case in this example ‘note all these bills are not passed by men’.
I was recently talking to a headteacher about a child at their school who they could see came from a troubled family without any love or care, and knowing the school they would be going onto, they could already see as is preplanned, the trajectory this child might follow, one that ends in a difficult, disruptive and possibly criminal young teen. This is true for many of the kids I observed growing up around me, that their difficult behaviour in the class room and life in general was clearly not just how they where born but how they where raised. When we consider this, the responsibility of allowing women to have abortions becomes even clearer – we have a duty of care to ensure that children are brought into this world and raised in such a way as to not impose on them or interfere with who they are.
Your voice is so needed Gyl. I can feel how solid and steady you are in your choice to have an abortion and this is worth celebrating. Millions upon millions of women have had abortions and feel crushed by their decision, not because it wasn’t a true decision, but because nothing in the world confirmed the responsible choice they made. You show that the impositions on women’s bodies can only truly affect us if we buy into them. It is also very important to be open and honest about the truth of abortion as this will prevent archaic laws like the ones you mention being instituted and enforced.
Your blog Gyl highlights just how divided our society is over issues of abortion rights. Opinions are widely diverse as we now see in some of the laws passed recently. How can a dis-unified society pass abortion laws that are expected to serve the whole?
Could the division come from the ideals and beliefs we put on another yet are unwilling to go to a deeper level of humility and understanding of the individual and their right to choose?
‘What if having an abortion was actually taking a deep level of responsibility?’ This makes so much sense to me Gyl, because in saying yes through ideals and beliefs, you’re saying no to making a true choice for your body and your life and then you will carry this in all that you do.
Thank you Gyl for your sharing, it exposes the way our society is at the moment where there is an inequality amongst us and the inability to respect each other”s uniqueness and the fact that we can make choices based on true love and responsibility for all.
There are no rules that we can apply across the board. Every situation has to be seen in its own uniqueness with responsibility and respect. We have made so many mistakes applying broad brush rules for everyone.
I absolutely agree with you Matilda, so much has to be taken into account in every situation and at the end of the day the decision is up to the woman as it is hers alone and shouldn’t have all these outside forces trying to sway the decision one way or the other.
it is actually supremacy of the one gender over the other that is behind all this bullying to women and until we will recognise that we are all one and the same and that our gender is only a different way of expressing a human life, this bullying will cease which will set free both women and men to live who they really are with the responsibility that comes with that.
Yes, Nico, that word supremacy is very accurate. Women often get blamed for having abortions, but what of the role of the men who create many unwanted pregnancies, and sometimes this is against the will of the woman, in extreme cases rape. It is against such a backdrop that we have to see the misogyny that holds our societies back from being progressive and open, perhaps this is the real problem, not the abortions which are actually taking responsibility for a persons body and their choices, but the loveless control of women that men have been responsible for enacting for so long.
It is actually all one and the same, if you are the abuser or the abused, we all have experienced both ways in our lives. It is actually a game we play that will stop one day when we come to the understanding that we express this behaviour because of us resisting to return living the grandness we naturally are once again. And once we have returned to this stupendousness we are, the abuse will have no ground to exist anymore because the love we then live will have no space for any abuse or whatsoever.
I was aware of the Bills you mention here Gyl but seeing them all together is very sobering. It feels like a system set up to torture and persecute women ‘legally’. Abortion is usually an act of great responsibility and this has been the case with every woman I know that has chosen it.
Well said Leonne – abortion is a choice that no woman would take lightly.
Agree. Abortion is a choice all women deserve.
I know a lot of women who carry guilt and many un-dealt with emotions around having had any abortion. I have never seen it to be a decision that is taken lightly and is one of huge responsibility. This is a great blog as it brings it out into the open for a conversation to be had where many women can open up a locked box and heal what lies inside.
It is true Nikki, so many of these issues are never dealt with because they are seen as unacceptable which causes so much harm.
Even though we each have our own body to look after, every choice we make impacts everyone else. This is evident when a woman carries an unborn child or decides to have a child, but this direct effect on others is happening always.
Sure Vicky, and we all have a responsibility in that, as all that we do to ourselves will have an effect on others and vice versa, and it is always happening as you say, if we want to see that or not. And in the context of this blog, in carrying and giving birth to a child, which is the privilege of the female body, is actually a responsibility as in that we provide space to new life to be lived in the human form and that is actually a huge responsibility when observed from this angle to life.
There is such stigma around the word abortion. People will be challenged to understand that it actually can be a choice in which Love is included.
I would say that having an abortion is a big decision for any woman, with this context it is clear that awareness of responsibility would be a key in that decision. Not bringing a child into the world if they are aware that the circumstances are not supportive, is a great service and choice, yes we ALL make choices that are not supportive, some of us are harmed and abused by others, but as you say taking responsibility for these pregnancies is something to be appreciated and understood without judgement.
If we raise children under the energy of having to when we are not ready, or can provide or support the child in a way that they truly deserve, are we not then setting both mother and child up to bring so much less for each other, under that pressure?
“A pregnant woman’s husband will have the power to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape” This law is incredible in the sense that it is sort of saying that spousal rape is ok it does not acknowledge it as abuse but as just a factor in the law.
The true responsibility of having an abortion is little appreciated to the depth it can really be taken and given credit for us as women in the overall picture of love and what is true at the time for oneself and the child to be brought in to the world and taken care of in the level of love and care we are.
The idea or belief that there is a lesser sex – is very telling of how far we have moved away from the connectedness to our genderless Souls. We are energetic beings before we are physical form, we know this, but choose to be unaware and cling onto this life as the ‘be all and end all’. When we come back to that knowing, that we are all one, sexes will simply be an expression and not a class of person.
It feels very important to hold the questions you have posed about responsibility of bringing a child into the world, especially one that is unplanned. Many people go onto have the baby and are very happy but if we force people to have unwanted babies the result of this imposition will be felt for the life of that child.
I agree Vanessa – it certainly is a huge responsibility and forcing someone to keep a child sets up that child for the type of life they will receive. It does not make sense when there is an opportunity to raise a child in absolute love.
Very true Vanessahawthorne. I once read a book where many women were interviewed about abortion after having one. Every single one of them felt that they did what was true for them but they all seemed permanently tortured by their decision because of pressures they felt from others or the sense of loss they felt. Now I see that this book was not as impartial as it was made out to be as I’ve met many women who chose to have abortions because it was the most loving choice. These women have no regrets.
I was once targeted online by a woman saying do you not feel guilty for having an abortion.
I love your question Gyl – ‘What if having an abortion was actually taking a deep level of responsibility?’ – this is something that most do not go anywhere near considering.
Each case is different and mistakes will be made, but we must do away with condemnation and judgement and come from love and understanding in all cases, not from control and manipulation.
True Irena – There is no understanding of the workings of who we are, where we are from (universal), what children are about and how a woman’s body needs to be honoured as totally sacred. The fact that society is trying to control how women are with their bodies is a telling sign that the power held in a woman’s body has the ability to transform the way we interact and love each other. To keep the world in the disharmony it is currently in, they need to control the woman’s body so she feels ashamed of it and not empowered and Heavenly.
I was looking at the internet to get an idea about marital rape and learnt that only 2 surveys have ever been done in an attempt to determine how prevalent spousal rape is today. I found this quite shocking.
1.Ten to fourteen percent of ever-married women have experienced at least one forced sexual assault by a husband or ex-husband (Finkelhor & Yllo, 1985; Russell, 1990).
2.Studies of battered women staying in shelters and women seeking relationship help show one-third to three-quarters of those asked reported sexual assaults by their husbands or intimate partners
And it is only recently that the law has begun to offer wives protection from their husband’s sexual attacks, and many people are still unaware that wife rape is a crime. What are we doing about this?
The thing is how many of these rapes are not reported.
I was speaking to a friend of mine who recently returned to midwifery after a ten year absence and she was saying how shocked she was at how much had changed even in that short time; how women’s bodies were being abused during various birthing procedures and treated with absolutely zero respect and care. The crazy thing that I have been pondering on is that I’m sure there were many women involved in the procedures that she witnessed….thus we have all truly lost any sense of the inmate divinity and sacredness of the female body.
Everything comes down to your truth. Full stop. What anyone else thinks, says or suggests after that doesn’t matter.
What is quite horrific to feel in what you share Gyl is how it’s another form of witch-hunt. And the examples you give of recent law in the US show this clearly. The anti abortion lobby has gotten more sophisticated and now rather than try and directly ban abortion (in the US at least) they created highly invasive and restrictive laws to force women to undergo procedures which have no medical value to attempt to manipulate her, but underneath all that the attitude towards women and their bodies as others have mentioned is all about cruelty and control. There is not one ounce of respect or care in there, and this is a so called developed, enlightened western nation. We have much to look at and consider here.
It is difficult to credit that the laws on abortion all over the globe are so medieval – including our own state of NSW Australia. It is like some people are living in a future of a moving way of being and a whole crowd more have decided to live in the distorted and unenlightened laws of a dark period of our history. We are all living here simultaneously but living different times and histories.
Great to open up this conversation Gyl and claim abortion for the responsible choice it can be. Religion has much to answer for in cementing a thick stigma of judgement and shame around abortion, we are still in the dark ages because nothing has truly changed or healed, for as long as women accept this abuse and subjugation we will continue to feed the beast.
Brilliant blog Gyl, thank you for writing on a subject that so often gets swept under the carpet. The statistics you share are shocking – we like to think we live in a civilised society in which there is equality yet what is shown here is just how far away from that we are. There is an abuse of power and also complacency and we all play a part in allowing this to continue if we don’t say no to the abuse that occurs in our own lives.
I 100% agree with you Gyl, firstly your points you made about the abhorrent law that has been passed in Arkansis in the US, disgusting, that a husband can rape their wife and she then does not have the right to an abortion, the right to make a decision about her own body. I am aghast, but not surprised, as you say this abuse of women’s rights has been going on for a long time. It certainly is time for this to stop.
There is of course a higher law than the laws of the land, and should the laws of the land wish to be truly representative of the higher laws, then they need to understand some of their underlying principles that make the higher laws – and one of those is the understanding of the need for the application of free will, and the other is that the higher law is never imposing upon the rights of another. Equally, the higher law abides by all other higher laws, which is only possible to apply if it understands life in its entirety. Thus, laws such as the abortion laws above, are not just imposing, but themselves came into fruition because of a lack of understanding about life in its entirety. Thus why they can be justly called ignorant. For that is what they are, and testament to the fact that if you choose to be ignorant to the fact of the stars above,then you will in turn be ignorant of what is truly called for in this plane of life, even when you are seemingly doing what is good or righteous in your mind.
There is so much abuse and neglect taking place within families around the world. A wise move would be to educate people to honestly and responsibly assess if they are truly ready and able to be a role model, and if they can support the expansion and evolution of another person. In contrast it is the height of folly to ill treat those who are responsible enough to know they are not ready so are choosing to postpone this event in their lives.
The practice of taking away another’s responsibility for the choices they may is quite sinister because once that has been done then the person is blamed for the decision they didn’t make or take responsibility for. True responsibility is about how we hold ourselves in every moment and is it as a vehicle of love or is it one of harm.
Ive had a few abortions, i grew up in an Irish catholic family and it was against my beliefs and the first time was obviously the worst, but after my second i thought” firstly, the doctor cant even make out the shape of a baby on the ultrasound its such a tiny speck, and its only alive due to it being a cell growing off my uterus and with MY BODY keeping it alive : why beat myself up?? 7 billion people are living on our DYING planet where we are depleting our natural resources quicker than ever, poisoning our air and water and killing thousands of species to extinction every single day!! …Id rather give life to a person HERE already living who needs food shelter and love than to add MORE people FROM ME into the much larger problems our planet faces. WE as humans have become so engrossed in our own survival and importance that we have nearly pushed out all of the animal kingdom to make more room for OURSELVES….please support ABORTION and freedom for choice
As women we have chosen to become victims of a society that has lost it’s way. Thank you Gyl for offering us a platform to ponder and consider what true responsibility requires and how we can make choices that will affect women across the world.
It’s no surprise the body is targeted, abused and controlled – when our body is the key to living our light.
So true Gyl, a woman’s sacredness unclaimed, unlived is like a lighthouse without light, we are all adrift.
What comes into question here is the beliefs of the lawmakers and their abuse of the power they hold due to bringing in their own religious beliefs to dictate how others should or shouldn’t live, along with their beliefs on morality. So as a politician if we put policies in place that are originally coming from a belief that we run with and see others as less then we are not serving all equally, but merely trying to impose our beliefs onto others.
The fact that women would initiate official laws and regulations that don’t allow women to have access to abortion says a lot about the world. Your very own sex attacking by making it possible to stop women for having freedom about their own bodies is horrendous. Could it be that comparing and jealousy are at the core of this? If we’re honest and willing to feel, we all know that this is the opposite of love whether it being jealousy, comparing, hate, anger etc. it doesn’t matter! If we want a more loving world, we need to talk about it! We certainly want politicians on every level that first and foremost take care of themselves so that they are capable of making choices that are all-encompassing. We’re to stop the evil that is behind this law (and many others). But only together we can do so.
Putting the welfare of an unborn baby before the welfare of the woman does not make sense. How are we to raise healthy, balanced loved children if we are not taking absolute care of the woman first?
Well said Rowena – it makes no sense whatsoever. How can someone look after and bring up a child if 1st they cannot truly look after themselves. And worse still if a women has a child and they did not want it then what energy are they going to bring the child up with? Surely it is not going to be with the love and care it deserves?
This is a great question Rowena. Considering this in depth shows that the focus of making it difficult for a woman to choose abortion cannot in any shape or form have true caring of people at heart. A well as the blatant lack of care for the woman who finds herself facing this choice in her life, where is the care in forcing a child to be born in an environment that is clearly not prepared to receive it? And above all where is the honouring of holding open loving conversations where everyone can deepen their understanding and awareness and grow, instead of the brutal judgment and pressure imposed?
I wonder what state the world would be in if we did not have contraception of any kind? Would we be more responsible in our sexual activity? Then there are questions as to whether sex is purely a function of reproduction or something more. I also wonder that if the consequences of getting pregnant were truly equal to both genders we might have more equanimity in our understanding, our responsibilities and our legislations. Imagine if in conception, both the man and the woman became pregnant – because on one level, this is the case and some couples today actually say so when they tell people ‘we are pregnant’.
Thank you for approaching the topic of abortion, Gyl, one that we so want to brush away. I am prompted, by what you have written, into a much deeper consideration of our whole attitude to abortion, thank you.
It is strange that in our world in the state it currently is, with all of the problems facing humanity, there are those that dedicate themselves to preventing others from making their own choices regarding abortion.
I know for me Michael it comes down to not actually wanting to address and look at what is going on for me. The moment I can focus on anothers choices somehow it makes everything ok for me and takes the focus away from me – but the reality is that all it does is delay things and nothing changes.
Gyl what you have shared is an eye opener to see what is still going on in the world. There is not respect for women to make choices of their own body. To have a child is a responsible role, as is to parent it. But if one feels that at the time of fall pregnant they are not in the position to provide this then they should have the choice to abort the pregnancy.
It is unfathomable that a law would force someone to become a parent, when you know what an important role that is.
In my opinion, these new laws and bills being passed are absolutely horrifying and crazy and is a reflection of where we all stand in society and how far removed we can be from true care, respect and honouring of both women and men. These laws do not represent our natural and innate way of living and relating harmoniously – but what is it going to take for us to realise this? How much abuse and deep neglect do we allow till we finally realise what we have done, the loveless choices we have made? Having said that, it is never too late to realise our mistakes, and then seek to make a true change. True change may only start with one, but if genuine, it has its ripple effects thereafter that are felt all around the world.
There has been a myth around that ‘you don’t get pregnant the first time you have sex’ and this is a myth, because there are so many teenagers who get pregnant when they want to have sex but don’t necessarily want to have a baby. For the same reason, rape can result in pregnancy, where a man wants relief and uses a woman’s body, or a girl’s body, be it his own daughter or someone else’s daughter, for sex, and she ends up distressed and pregnant. Abortion can be one solution to the unwanted ‘side effect’, adoption is another solution and both will have a long-lasting effect on the mother. It is not a decision to take lightly.
Wow, big questions Gyl and they surely have to be asked when we have laws passed that criminalise conversation and guidance around support. It really puts more lives at risk to do it this way and clearly imposes power over the choices a woman can make with her own body which I do not believe anyone has the right to do. It calls for deeper conversations.
‘We would never be allowed to control or tell a man what to do with his reproductive organs – so why are women being denied the same right to choose?’ – This fact alone speaks volumes – it is time we truly speak up and stop adding to this utter denigration and discrimination by staying silent.
Observing a group of teen girls recently was an eye opener into how they felt they couldn’t speak up around the boys in relation to a few basic things like music choices. There was a really strong culture of looking good/ amazing, being smart but not speaking out against the boys likes and dislikes. Suggestion that it would be ok to express how they felt was met with a blank stare of no way! It concerned me that at such a young age the culture of acceptance at any cost was so strong.
Abortions involve three parties really, and each deserves equal airtime in how they feel about the pending birth. Ultimately it is important for women to remain empowered to make choices that impact their bodies. Parenting is a huge responsibility and something we should not force anyone into.
I agree Gyl that this is very similar to the control of a woman’s body and the lessening of women that we have seen throughout the ages in many institutionalised religions across the world and not to forget the many cultural traditions that have been in the past and those that have been imposed in our modern day.
There is so much abuse, atrocities, despair, giving up and general lack of care of people happening throughout the world. We are hearing about much of them in the news and we all know it is happening to a far more scale behind closed doors. Why on earth have we turned away from dealing with all of that to judging a woman who wishes to terminate her own pregnancy?
‘Just recently, 4th of February 2017 – under a new law passed in the state of Arkansas, in the USA, “A pregnant woman’s husband will have the power to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape”.’ This is such a shocking indictment of how lost we have become as a society that a woman doesn’t factor in the choices made, even if it is her body that has been heinously abused and even if after this she is left in a situation that would mean looking after an unwanted child, a life long trauma that doesn’t just affect the woman, but the child and the rest of society.
Abortion is a huge responsibility, not a sin or a crime. It is never a decision taken lightly but we always knows when it is correct for us to have a baby and when it is not, our body and our inner wisdom clearly communicates to us. Attempting to manipulate us through such barbaric laws does not improve our societies, it is just adding to a world that is normalising neglect, abuse and oppression.
Thank you Gyl for highlighting how the ideals and beliefs imposed upon men and women around the topic of abortion, stop women from appreciating when their choice is based on a deep knowing of the responsibility they hold when having a child.
The examples of recent legislation to curtail a woman’s right over her own body show that we have a long way to go when it comes to respecting and honouring what women bring to this world through the innate sacredness of the female body. And as women, it reflects the level of responsibility we carry and are, to be fair, equally not willing to take on, in the overall scheme of things.
Yes, when I read the recent legislation I was shocked by the underlying attitude… they felt more 16th century than 21st and are an indictment of our lack of respect for one another.
There is certainly responsibility in terminating a pregnancy if a mistake has been made. And since there is no perfection on earth, we are all bound to make mistakes which can lead to an operation. All medical procedures are a result of mistakes we have made at some point in our lives, so why would an abortion be any different from any other operation? I really relate to what you are saying Gyl about this: ‘Never once did I consider or even given myself credit for the level of responsibility I took to have an abortion. Some may say, ‘well you should have taken more responsibility to not get pregnant in the first place’, and yes I agree, but we all make mistakes. The choice I made was not selfish, and not solely about me, but the foetus as well. Deep down in my body I absolutely knew and know the level of responsibility and integrity I want to have a child with, and the responsibility I have and want to parent them in.’
Thank you for bringing to our attention the situation that still applies to abortion and that it hasn’t moved with the truth as we know it in this lifetime. Through the teachings of the Ageless Wisdom presented by Serge Benhayon there is much we need to change and our beliefs around abortion is one of these.
No one has the right to abuse another or oppress/restrict the choices someone can make about their own body, and equally so we should always take responsibility for our body, care for it deeply and claim that.
Having a child is a huge responsibility that not everyone is ready or able to embrace due to circumstances at that moment in time – hence this is a responsible decision to choose to terminate a pregnancy. There is enough challenge in this alone for a woman to experience and go through without having to add on the judgements and criticisms of others as well as laws that are there to manipulate and control with no true care for the woman and who she is.
There will always be a difference of opinion on this issue because everyone is in different circumstances and it is not until we are actually faced with a serious decision like this for ourselves that we are in any way qualified to understand another, and even then it is not appropriate to judge or make laws about. Banning abortions will not stop them but could lead to unhealthy illegal institutions that risk the mother’s health.
Absolutley Carmel, in the same way that this was carried out not that long ago, with the countless ‘back street’ abortions that took place before abotion was legalised in the UK alone. And women died as a result back then, or at best lived the rest of thier lives carrying the guilt of aborting their unborn child, which would have led to all sorts of other complications. Banning abortions will not solve anything.
Our main religion in western Europe (Christianity and Catholicism) have imposed on us the ideals and beliefs that men are superior over women. Both men and women have accepted this. As we’re much more aware and much more free in being able to express what is true and what not, we’re to deconstruct these false pillars of evil. We’re imposed and settled for less than how we truly are. Now we’re bringing back the truth and permission to live, express and make choices that belong to any woman or man. We’re not to dictate over others. Never. There’s a new era, an era in which there’s much falseness / evil to be broken down.
The choice to parent a child is a life long commitment. “Whoops, this is not really for me, I’d like to return it please” doesn’t quite work with children. There is no neighbour you can give the dog to and no going back on the decision. Every woman knows this in her bones. Taking away her right to make this choice is barbaric.
Nikki love how you have shared that once you have a child you cannot give it back and say sorry its a mistake. There is so much to consider with having a child and it is a woman’s right to decide if she wants to go forward with it. It is her choice to say yes or no.
Thank you Gyl Rae for sharing an inside perspective of the deep sense of responsibility that goes into the decision to have an abortion.
I know that most women do consider everything as they come to this decision, most definitely the life they would be able to provide for a child at the time.
I feel that a great dividing factor in this issue is the lack of true understanding about the state of the fetus in early stages of gestation and the understanding of reincarnation.
it is our responsibility to ensure that we are willing and able to nurture a newborn into this life.
What is truly going on here when men can freely choose to have a vasectomy, and yet a woman cannot freely choose to have an abortion? There is responsibility in both decisions which needs to be respected, valued and honoured.
Both scenarios here offer us the opportunity to make deeply responsible choices… choices that are ours to make, free from imposed dogma and beliefs.
I agree, we have to begin to consider what we value more – the cells developing inside a woman uterus, or the experience of life that the child to be born will experience and the mother along with them. We have to see the responsibility in being able to admit that you are not ready, willing or wanting to raise a child – they are a serious commitment many who do want children struggle to handle, and that is without considering the fact that even then many children are not raised with love.
Judgments made from ideals and beliefs, and then imposed on another without true understanding… are the cause of much irresponsibility in the world today.
I agree. It is amazing how we relinquish responsibility when rules are applied from the top down and then we blame someone else for what plays out. This does feel like madness.
It is crazy to read all these laws and feel the normalisation of the control of women’s choices. We are all to look into every piece of our lives to see to what level we men hold this control, and be honest and humble to feel this without judgement letting go of this learned imposition, as we all are born knowing the equalness we hold with each and every one. Giving the choice of abortion freely will empower us all.
Wise and sensible words of wisdom.
The following bill seems even more heinous that the others – as awful as they all are:
‘Senate Bill 118, authored by Sens. Dennis Kruse and Liz Brown, would require a mandatory ultrasound before an abortion, and, notably, the bill would require the pregnant woman to view the foetal ultrasound imaging and listen to foetal sounds’. As if the torture of having to have an abortion and go through the procedures isn’t more than enough to go through! Let’s torture the woman more and make her feel even worse. I can feel the disgusting energy behind this bill, and all in the tone of self-righteousness and moral good – how revolting can it get?
Moral good, perhaps a very high form of evil, for it never seems to contain the word compassion or care in its actions, and most certainly not love.
These senate bills Gyl describes are pure evil, the imposition of one’s beliefs onto another person. It is easy to understand why abortion is an emotive topic but it is difficult to understand the cruelty, lack of understanding and lack of care that is apparent and abhorrent in the laws that are being passed in the United States.
I’m so appreciative of the wise and deepening questions that are asked in an esoteric body work session. Many years ago I was asked if I had been abused, my answer was no as I had not experienced any physical violence while growing up or in adult relationships. However with later understanding that abuse comes in all forms, seen and unseen, physical and energetic, I now know how I did in fact hold in my body the effects of abuse that I had allowed – which was everything that was not in regard to my own sacredness as a woman. Abuse is rife on many levels, but is something that can be abated whilst we start to look at and call out exactly what it is and the forms it takes.
It’s strange how there are those who seemingly value the birth of a child more than the life of the women giving birth… We can be so very blinded by beliefs and ideals when we dis-connect from our inner heart.
Yes, it’s exposing of a lack of care for others that one values the unknown in aid of suppressing the known, in this case women. It feels far more about the suppression of women than it does the preservation of life.
Seeing the children that are the product of irresponsible parenting, or parents who didn’t want children or can’t afford them or simply are not ready, should be all the answer we need on the subject beyond the fact that it is a woman’s right to choose to do as she wishes with her body. You cannot look at those children who are not loved and not given an upbringing and some are not even taught the basics of what it means to live, what kind of teenager and adult do they become. With the increasing trends in mental health problems, drug and alcohol abuse, self harm and suicide, as well as those who are unemployed, in dysfunctional relationships, checking out with hours of video games every day – our society is littered, or more accurately drowning, in behaviours that show that something is not working in the way we raise our children, and forcing parenthood on those who are not ready or capable of the task is not the answer.
What if the world really changed their view on abortion to see the responsibility that having an abortion can be, that each situation is different and the most loving thing may not be to bring a child into the world for that person, at that time and under that situation.
‘In this one law we are saying rape, abuse, and controlling a woman and her body are okay.’ In this one law, in a world in which the balance of power is still with men, we are saying women are subordinate and don’t have value,
Yes, and that women don’t even have the right to decide over their own bodies. Aren’t we headed backwards?
It goes to show how far we have allowed ourselves to stray from the love we naturally are when we go to the extremes to allow the ideals and beliefs to get a hold.
We pride ourselves on being so intelligent yet not only are we allowing such barbaric laws to be passed, we are actually concocting them. While we might seek to advance materially, we are heading back to the Dark Ages as far as our social awareness goes, legalising abuse and rape and normalising the suppression of women. This is a huge alarm bell that calls for instant attention because these attitudes deface the whole of humanity.
It is the 21st century, and men still, believe they know what is best for women?
Seeing those decisions that have been made on abortion and the rights of a woman bring home just how far away we are getting from understanding human dilemmas. None of us are perfect and as you say, we do make mistakes, but could we also be more responsible? Yes without a doubt. This however does not mean that governments or anyone else should implement laws that prevent a woman from basic, respectful and decent health care. In this case it involves a pregnancy, but it is still health care for her body.
A very good point Gyl: ‘Would we be allowed to pass a law giving women the right to stop their partners or boyfriend having a vasectomy? I think not. We would never be allowed to control or tell a man what to do with his reproductive organs – so why are women being denied the same right to choose?’ As I pondered this I was getting a glimpse of the identifications and security -based desperation that lies underneath this controlling bid over women’s bodies. The primitive male pride, the need to have an heir to identify his potency and the continuation of his ‘line’ (because of many fears, including the fear of death and annihilation), the wanting to be the owner, boss of the family . . .and the list could go on. So often I feel that people do not know what is driving their needs and controlling mechanisms which are all based on the false dynamic of creation – none of it true, none of it working. The woman’s body is a very precious thing – the holy grail! – and so men want to own it, if not squash it (not all men of course!)
If we have an opinion on anything the question is, is it a judgment? How can we judge another’s choice? It’s ok to know our own position on something because that is true for ourselves – an essential part of self-love and self-worth. This exact understanding and love is to be shared equally to all, for their decisions reflect their self-love, self-worth.
Thank you a much needed piece of writing exposing some very backward attitudes to women’s health and rights.
It is so important for women to be writing about abortion and our right to decide for ourselves to keep or not keep a pregnancy. The laws discussed are appalling in their control and denial of women having the right to choose what is true for them. I feel we have contributed to this as no one can make us more or less unless we allow it. Perhaps it’s women staying quiet, not reclaiming their power that has allowed this to occur.
You know what – no matter what – we need love each other fully and completely – no matter the choices another makes. And simply observe them. Something I need to work on – observing and not making this personal.
A decision to have an abortion is never taken lightly, and affects a woman her whole life. It is for each woman to judge for herself what action needs to be taken, not for anyone to lay down laws preventing her from making a choice.
As we live many lives, we’re not ending life completely when we choose abortion. In most cases if not all cases the woman (or girl!!) making the choice for abortion takes responsibility for what she feels if she wants to heartfully have the child. How responsible is this? Shouldn’t we allow the woman or girl to make her own choice? Shouldn’t we all want to be free to make the choice, especially in these cases where a whole life is changed. From my own experience, only choices that come from my heart fulfill me. I’d like a society that is based on intrinsic choices where people do take responsibility for their own choices!
These draconian abortion laws you speak of in this blog show a general attitude that does not respect the sacredness and beauty and equality of women and the right of everyone to free will.
I know what a touchy subject this can be as a lot of religions consider abortion murder and when we are brought up with this drummed into us it can sometimes be a hard ideal or belief to shake. Great article Gyl to shed some true light on the subject and also expose the craziness of certain laws.
When we allow government bodies, that we have elected, that make laws that undermine any segment of that society, why don’t we complain? Abortion is one issue that others wish to impose their opinions and beliefs on others that involve a self-choice! It is well past time to accept our responsibility in electing these people that represent us! Where do we stand if we don’t vote?
‘Would we be allowed to pass a law giving women the right to stop their partners or boyfriend having a vasectomy?’ A great question… putting the ridiculousness of the situation into perspective.
It is shocking how much rape is going on in families, but even is not considered as rape but taken as normal or the way to be in some cases.
‘Some may say, but ‘it’s her husband, of course he has a right’, but rape is rape no matter who commits the crime.’ – I would say it is even a greater crime when it is committed by someone close to the woman, someone that she should be able to trust to be treating her with dignity and respect.
The anti-abortion lobby’s attitude to women is that women are not allowed to own their bodies. We are not commodities to be abused; we are innately nurturing and have an immense amount of wisdom to offer the world. The big question to ask here is why are we allowing laws to be passed that abuse the women’s sacred decision to bear a child or not? What are we attempting to suppress by forcing her to have children she does not want to bear?
Gyl, thank you for taking the time to express and write about a topic such as abortion which has so much emotional ideals and beliefs attached around it. There is indeed a responsibility around the decision to have an abortion, just as there is a responsibility around the decision to keep a developing foetus. In a loving and respectful world, all options would be weighed out and there would be no forcing, no judgement and no guilt tripping!
“In this one law we are saying rape, abuse, and controlling a woman and her body are okay”. Are far as I am concerned it is in NO way okay but unfortunately when we look, not only at this Law but at laws and behaviours all around the globe, there are so many saying that it is. Reading all that you have shared Gyl and really feeling into the consequences for women it feels to me that for women to have full power and responsibility for their own lives is way too threatening to some people and the status quo that they fight to retain.
If we would take away complication in life we would have only truth and lies. If we would like to live a true life, aren’t we to check all our laws and regulations and abandon all that are not based on truth? We should! We’re the ones who have allowed it, now we’re to clean up the mess / the lies. Or keep our mouths shut and accept even more lies. What is our (collective) choice?
it is the woman who has to live with the choices she makes, therefore she should have the right to make a choice EITHER way.
‘…. any of the anti-abortion bills, lobbies, demonstrations, charities, companies really take into account the feeling and choice of the woman and her body –’ These laws completely negate the woman and make it about ‘right and wrong’, someone is the judge. Could it be possible that something deeper is going on here?
What if women were completely responsible for their choices over their bodies, and not have the ‘laws of man’ to tell a woman what she cannot and can do in these circumstances. Would it not only confront humanity the power of the woman, who knows exactly what is true for her body and whether the unborn will be brought into life with love or circumstances will not allow for this…it is about destroying a ‘woman’s knowing and wisdom of her own body and the beingness of woman and control the woman as her potential is one making us all accountable for the way we live. Then everyone would have to start taking responsibility for their own lives and stop hiding behind judgement, beliefs, and laws that really only protect beliefs and comfort – keep the status quo – not make it about what is true.
Crazy that with all these bills and laws, there is not one ounce of care nor respect for the woman, for the sacredness of who she is and what she is here to bring to us all.
Yes it is astonishing how much imposition there is throughout society toward women, as well as a lack of support for women to deepen their connection, awareness, honouring and responsibility for their own bodies. Thank goodness for Serge Benhayon and Universal Medicine which help heal many of the engrained hurts and issues held as a result of these abusive patterns and also supports all men and women to connect deeply with themselves and honour one another.
The choice to have an abortion or to not have an abortion is both about responsibility. In either case, it is a decision that is personal to those involved.
Maybe there is this perception that women make this choice lightly, and that if too readily available then it will become common practice to use this as a birth control option, but the women I have met have agonised over their decision for the rest of their lives, and probably still are – how can this be healthy.
It may be some time yet for humanity get to the point where we see that it is the woman’s choice to have a baby or not, either due to rape or a one night stand, and that can be the responsible thing to do depending on the circumstances. For this to happen the ideals and beliefs that come from religion and cultural beliefs that are retarding people will have to have a huge shift.
‘the imposition of the world’s ideals and beliefs and the Church…’ these created ideals and beliefs are accountable for much of the influence over humanity and are in truth abusive in themselves.
You know what if we didn’t impose on one another – because let’s face it, the truth is apart from around 5 people, we all do – we would be much more joyful and so much more ourselves. I see it everyday, starting from kids of a very young age, we impose and tell each other what to do. And it feels awful.
You are spot on Gyl. It is easy to point the finger at cases where people are imposing on others, yet pretty much all of us seem to have it at one part or another of our lives. We can each take greater care in our own lives to start a change of the trend.
I just Goggled the authors of the stated bills! All are Catholics, most have large families, and one is the ‘Indiana Commissioner for Women’, and it is not Sens. Liz Brown, that has seven children! It is rather Ironic that the US Constitution states that there should be a separation of religion and state, along with equality for all?
Very interesting Steve! To me this confirms that it is a one-sided decision, not done with the true interest of everyone at heart.
The whole topic of abortion comes with a plethora of rights and wrongs, it’s certainly time that we start to look at what is true for the whole. In the simplest of terms a person should have the right to choose what is most loving and supportive, not be punished or held to choices or situations that occurred in the past.
The fact that these anti-abortion laws have been passed is clear evidence that mankind is not evolving. It is pure cruelty to force a woman to have a baby conceived through rape and serves absolutely no purpose at all. The only result of a law like this is to perpetuate the loveless-ness that existed in the first place, which then afflicts a deep emotional scar on both woman and child. However are we supposed to build stable loving societies if this is our approach to the consequences of rape and the protection and wellbeing of women?
So many women that have an abortion feel guilt for the rest of their lives. As if they committed a very serious crime by choosing by what they feel to choose. That is ridiculous and is something that we shouldn’t have in this world. And it only exists because there are a selected few that have made their beliefs, our rules. We are all equally responsible for having accepted and allowed our girls and women to be dictated what to do. So we’re also both responsible and capable to choose differently and stand up for equal rights for every one of us here on this planet.
This is such a powerful piece of writing and so needed to break the really very heavy ideals and beliefs of what being pregnant means and the responsibility of bringing children into this world. It is such an enormous responsibility that few take seriously; that it is why we have a world full of hurt children in the bodies of adults.
Worth noting. A bill to make abortion legal in the the state of NSW, Australia was defeated in parliament last week. Hence abortion is still illegal here as it is in most states of this country. Doctors perform this procedure at risk to themselves and the woman unless they have sound medical reasons for doing so.
This is a disgrace.
What timid politicians we have, who bow to the most aggressive pundits and do not consider the ramifications for the women, the children they do not want and society as a whole.
One has to wonder who was consulted on making these abortion laws legal… It’s hard to fathom that any mass group of women would agree to and vote for these laws.
It is crazy to read here how these bills are indeed built on ideals and beliefs and allow no free will of the woman. There is an element of suppression and control. But we have to look at the fact that there are people behind these bills who are not standing up for truth. And this is a choice society has made as a whole.
This is true HM, and seen in who we vote in and what we accept from them. It is an unwillingness to stand up past a small level of bluster about inequality and unfairness, we never actually seem to take it to its end point where the change may actually arise.
Up until recently I have always let my male partner drive when we have been going anywhere, even just a short distance. This behaviour comes purely from stereotypical beliefs that I hold about the roles of men and women and the imbalance of power that I as a woman continue to perpetuate. Some may say this behaviour is of little significance but it belongs to a much bigger and very unhealthy consciousness.
I always find it fascinating when women vote against say, the abolition of the tampon tax, vote against women’s right to abortion, against their right to vote or have equal pay – all through out history are examples of women who will perpetuate the inequalities in life, to keep the status quo.
Such a great point raised here Rebecca. The fact that some women do vote in favour of repressing women and as we can see from the comments on this blog some men actively back emancipation of women, shows that this is NOT a Men vs Women thing. It is a consciousness and mind set that such people adopt and run with, whether they are a man or a woman.
I agree Golnaz – we cannot point the finger at men and lay the blame – ultimately there are those within both genders that would like to keep the status quo.
Why would women vote against something that is their right and the rights of other women? Could it be, that a man is somewhere behind these actions once again? Whose idea was it for Sen Liz Brown to have seven children?
It is slightly shocking that such laws exist and can still be passed in ignorance of the rights of women to make their own choices.
When a law like this is passed it doesn’t just affect those that have been raped by their husbands, it affects all of us because it is a further step toward normalising the abuse of women and the supremacy of men. Where do we go from here? History is littered with extreme acts of abuse…what we need to be looking at are the steps that got us there, because by the time we are there it is often too late. This Law in Arkansas should be a similar clarion alarm to humanity. How on earth did we get here? How on earth did we allow such a law to pass? What have we been living that laid the path toward this point?
Agreed Otto the abuse of women is something that has been normalised across societies, cultures and religions. There are subtle and not so subtle messages that are sent to women that they better not assert their own authority (and grace).
We are stamping on the sacredness that we all crave. Madness.
Spot on Otto, just putting rape and husband in the same sentence alone should be an oxymoron. But sadly it is exposing in our society just how far we have let things slide. For those of us that find that this does ring alarm bells – it is for us to speak up and bring this to people’s attention – like a re-awakening that we all need to go through in order to see through these veils that fall down to make us think that abuse of any kind is acceptable and normal.
This is a profound point. There are many who are not able to see that abuse within these laws – which makes those of us that can ever more responsible for leading humanity out of this quagmire. If not now, then when? If not us, then who?
Having kids is perhaps the most demanding and intense thing that I have ever done. I am in a stable relationship, hugely supported by friends and family. I have money to support us all, I can put food on the table, I can afford childcare to help out, we have a big house for us to live in and I have a secure career to enable me to continue to look after my children. And yet, I still found it crazy intense and highly demanding and challenging. So….I have absolute respect and total understanding of anyone who makes the very wise decision that they don’t want to take that on, or don’t have the capability to support this journey. Having kids is a gigantic responsibility. Forcing women to have them is a gigantic irresponsibility and abuse of both the woman and the unborn child.
Again, I totally agree with what you are sharing here Otto. Even when a child is wanted there are lots of challenges in the day to dayness of it all. On top of this as a parent if you have any issues at all, even within the so called stability of the middle class home, they are going to come out and affect your children. Compound all of this with someone who financially struggles and who doesn’t have support and we can see that the odds are heavily stacked against the mum and child living in a way that confirms that child and woman for everything they are.
It is not the same but perhaps worth mentioning. I decided to have a vasectomy because myself and my wife were very absolute that we didn’t want any more children. It was a simple procedure. The National Health Service supported it entirely and after one very helpful and caring counselling session (to ensure that I was fully aware of what I was doing) the operation was booked in and executed within a month. After the operation I was very deeply struck by the ‘gift’ that it felt I had given myself in taking this highly responsible act and it had a profound effect on me through the level of self-care that I was giving myself; placing myself before children and knowing, without doubt, that this was the true thing to be doing. All in all it was a highly supported and extremely evolving thing for me to do. It is incredible to me that I can have this experience whilst a woman who is raped is not allowed to have an abortion. The disparity between the two is crazy.
Thank you for making this point Otto. What you are sharing here highlights hugely how the perception is that men are being responsible when they make these decisions but that women are not. The level of abuse meted out against women in so many ways have become so normalised, which is not acceptable. I do know however that when women can collectively step into the power of claiming their bodies for themselves much will shift in this regard.
Thank you Gyl for sharing honestly about your abortions, it’s a tough enough decision for any woman to make without the added pressure of laws that state she can’t freely choose to do this. These archaic attitudes against abortion and a woman’s right to choose, including cases of rape and incest, show that beliefs and ideals rule many people. I’m astonished that men and women still believe they have such a right to interfere in other people’s lives like this, to the point of legislation. There are plenty of things that require urgent legislation such as cyber abuse and paedophilia in the churches, yet those issues move at a snail’s pace compared to taking ownership over a woman’s body and her right to choose abortion.
Throughout the world there are many countries that have a say over women’s bodies, deciding what they can and can’t do and this has been going on for aeons. In a country like America where women have the freedom to make decisions for themselves it seems crazy that they are willing to accept these abortion laws. I feel we all have a responsibility here, if women don’t love and respect themselves, are willing to have cosmetic surgery and tattoos and mutilate their own body, then we are not living in the sacredness that we are born to be, then what are we saying to the rest of the world. The more I understand that how we women here in the UK are, affects how women are seen and treated in India, America, Africa or any of the countries that suppress women’s natural rights, carries a much deeper level of responsibility
The imbalance of having an equal right and say between men and women that still exists is unacceptable and against anything that makes sense. It is quite telling that there is a whole state where the puplic obviously supports or still accepts ideals, decisions and laws that foster male supremacy. What is the psychological, moral and spiritual state of being that endorses such falseness?
Thank you Gyl. What you share will be supportive to many women who have had abortions and then find themselves living with regret, guilt and shame. The choice to have an abortion is never an easy one as it is shrouded in entrenched ideals and beliefs about women. Women must be empowered and supported to choose for themselves based on how they feel at the time and their own personal circumstances.
I agree – this discussion is very important for so many reasons, one of them is that it will help women who have had/will have abortions to bring awareness and understanding to their situation as opposed to being overwhelmed with guilt and shame.
The title of this blog says it all. Abortion – a responsibility is very self affirming. Women very often, before choosing to have an abortion have considered the consequences of going ahead with a pregnancy they may not want. It is more responsible to be honest and choose to have an abortion, than push ahead with a pregnancy that you don’t want and may not be right for you or unborn child.
When we live in a society that is so far disconnected from a woman’s qualities and sacredness, it becomes irrelevant that there are women passing such bills when we have both men AND women choosing to not know their truth for the sake of an oppressive and manipulative influence.
All the examples of legislation you cite are, if not outright laws against abortion, at the very least a concerted effort to bully women into relinquishing the right and say over their own body. The additional medical procedures, as in the transvaginal ultrasound, only add unnecessary costs to an already overburdened health system. The whole thing is supremacy on the rampage.
‘…but I had had two abortions when I was younger, that if I am honest, I carried guilt around for years, and didn’t want people to know about in case of what they thought about me.’ If we were to do a survey of women in most communities I feel that we would be surprised at the number of women who have had abortions, and yet it remains such a very taboo topic for so many reasons. But, what if as you say Gyl, having an abortion is actually a truly responsible act? How can it possibly benefit the child to come into the world if the mother has neither the emotional resources, support, or financial means to raise a child? All those that advocate for pro life aren’t really factoring in the mother’s right to a life of her choosing, but rather imposing their beliefs onto her and simply telling her to suck it up! As a woman in this predicament what kind of foundation and beholding love can you offer a child if you are in the overwhelm of having a baby in the first place?
They may be pro-life but they are not pro-quality-of-life.
This seems to be a time warp back in time when Women were used for what every need or desire that is required and then once this is done they are ignored in what they want with their own bodies and have to do what it is that the man wants. This is completely unacceptable, the abuse needs to be exposed for what it is. Great insight Gyl thanks for sharing.
I agree. This simple twist of roles that Gyl so eruditely exposes, illustrates how atrociously eschewed the balance is still in favour of the male sex.
There is so much hysteria and rabid righteousness around abortion, yet those institutions that attack women and their access to it, are the very ones turning a blind eye to the most horrendous abuse, paedophilia, bullying of women and children, domestic violence and forcing women to stay in abusive relationships based on false dogma beliefs perpetrated by corrupt power-hungry institutions – how lost are we that we cannot see the insanity in it, and how lost are we all to see it but not be speaking up.
‘Just recently, 4th of February 2017 – under a new law passed in the state of Arkansas, in the USA, “A pregnant woman’s husband will have the power to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape”. How far lost are we that we can pass a law that allows a man to rape a woman and stop her from aborting the child? In this one law we are saying rape, abuse, and controlling a woman and her body are okay.’ It makes one realise how many different worlds are in operation at the same time. Some still in the way distant past and very few living the future of humanity. What happened to Marie Stopes’ initiative at the beginning of the last century to facilitate women having the say over what happens to their bodies?
When we live in a society where we are fearful to express what’s going on for us because it doesn’t fit the generally accepted picture, we see this lack of acceptance leads to unhealthy choices and behaviours.
‘How far lost are we that we can pass a law that allows a man to rape a woman and stop her from aborting the child?’ – Insanity. How can this possibly happen in a so called modern society? Have we as women and men alike totally lost our sense of seeing the bigger picture and the consequences that follows for these women, children and the entire families?
The fact that some of the laws and some of the pressure in society diminishing a woman’s right to honour how she feels comes from other women, shows that it is not a man/woman thing. Even some women have bought into seeing these abusive ways as expected and normal. The re-imprinting of loving, caring, honouring and supporting one another is deeply needed throughout society.
Why are we not choosing to have a law that prevents the world from having laws and regulations that take away free will from people to choose over their own bodies and that prevents us from EVERYTHING that creates separation within this world? That would benefit everybody and would stop countless arguments between different beliefs or ideals. In essence life isn’t about any beliefs or ideals. So if anybody wants to pass a law we simply look at the fact if the law or regulation contributes to more unity or not. If this would be the case, what would happen with laws and regulations around abortion as portraited by Gyl Rae here?
Why are we not choosing to have a law that prevends the world from having laws and regulations that take away free will from people to choose over their own bodies and that prevends us from EVERYTHING that creates seperation within this world? That would benefit everybody and would stop countless arguments between different beliefs or ideals. In essence life isn’t about any beliefs or ideals. So if anybody wants to pass a law we simply look at the fact if the law or regulation contributes to more unity or not. If this would be the case, what would happen with laws and regulations around abortion as portrayed by Gyl Rae here?
Gosh, i am deeply shocked by this new law in Arkansas that has just passed. It makes absolutely no sense that we can continue to go backwards in such basic human rights and in the year 2017. I know the world at large is still so stuck in an inequality on so many levels, but this is beyond comprehensible.
We are very lost ‘that we can pass a law that allows a man to rape a woman and stop her from aborting the child…’ To take away this choice with I presume a belief that it is for the good of humanity or some sort is so disconnected with what is loving and sacred. So whatever beliefs justify this law the underlying effect is to try to take out the beautiful and healing reflection a woman can bring in making choices true to her as this supports everyone, men and women alike.
Thankyou Gyl for this very powerful and ground breaking piece.
Thank you for this blog. It is shocking to hear that in some countries women are not allowed to make decisions by law about their bodies.
I agree Gyl that 99.9% of women are making the decision to have an abortion from the perspective of responsibility… however, I have met one woman who had had several abortions and wasn’t concerned about contraception because she could “always have an abortion.”
Abortion – the very word carries with it so many connotations. It is like when we say the word we feel all the beliefs and ideas that have been placed upon that word. That is why it is mostly spoken about from a reaction.
This is huge, and it is safe to say that it is not solely our own thoughts and pictures that we are running with, but rather the collective consciousness that we choose to align to.
As long as we keep casting regulations out of controlling and to keep society in check we will not truly change anything but will keep incapacitating ourselves. It is, as you bring to the fore Gyl, that we need to ask and consider deeply the people that are involved in and affected by the situations we are dealing with, only then can we step by step come back to a truth that is equally truthful for all.
Yes, because everything looks now so modern and flash, does not mean some ideals and beliefs are still very much behind and still like in the Dark Ages. To have a woman who wants to have an abortion forced to have a transvaginal ultrasound which is not a pleasant procedure and not necessary is nothing but pure power misuse.
Yes, to force a woman to have this procedure pre an abortion is manipulative as well as it being a misuse of this medical procedure.
‘Are many, if not all of these women who choose to have abortions actually making a very loving and responsible choice for themselves and others?’ A good question Gyl. For example, young girls who fall pregnant are probably not equipped to take full responsibility for a child which means that this then falls to their parents and family and may be a burden for them. It may indeed be more responsible to choose to have an abortion.
How we impose on, shame and judge others can affect them for the rest of their lives, if not lifetimes. I see this at school with kids, it starts from such an early age. People telling each other how to be or what they should be doing, or that they are right or wrong, instead of allowing them to be.
Thank you Gyl for presenting this. Having an abortion should be a choice – just like any other choice we make in our lives. The fact that there is so much against women having free will to do this reinforces where we are as a society. I had an abortion. Like you it was the most loving thing for
me to do hands down.
These Bills seem to be a way to control a woman’s rights and not in support of the woman or the unborn child and setup a lifetime of possible resentment by the woman who does not want the child.
The question begs to be asked, ‘Where exactly are we at as societies world-wide, when we do not honour or allow women the freedom to make such an important decision for themselves?’
I agree that women need to have the choice to terminate a pregnancy, but I also feel that where possible the man should be part of the discussion as to whether a pregnancy is to be gone ahead or not as this affects both the man and the woman. If a man is not ready to be a parent that should also be respected and if the woman still decides to go ahead as is her right, should his name be omitted from the birth certificate?
Gyl on reading “We would never be allowed to control or tell a man what to do with his reproductive organs”, it occurred to me that in many cultures a woman is not allowed to tell a man what to do full stop and it is not up for debate, unless you want to debate with his fists.
Honouring our bodies as sacred is our first premise. Many teenage pregnancies whether they result in an abortion or not result from not having a loving and nurturing relationship with ourselves. We lack confidence, we want to be liked, there is no deep sense of self. We sleep walk into relationships. Teenage girls are told about contraception, rarely do they have conversations about themselves as women, what it means to be a woman and the sanctity of the body they en-house.
Keep women suppressed and you suppress the call of stillness back to the truth of who we are. It’s a sinister game that’s been played since the beginning of time.
The Suffragettes started three centuries ago to get women’s rights; the battle still has not been won! What makes it is so hard to allow everyone equally, to be responsible for their bodies?
The rules you describe in Arkansas USA are imposing, archaic and disrespectful to all women in my view. It is an obvious example how we go around in circles in life where nothing changes until it is addressed by a different energy change. It is not a case for getting agitated or burning our bras, but we can expose the evil of this, as you have done Gyl, well done.
This is medieval! And a bill to decriminalise abortion in NSW has just been turned down. It is totally unbelievable. What images are people holding? What madnesses are people choosing, just because madness is passing through us continually. Have they forgotten that they are not here to persecute a woman who has mistakenly got pregnant!
Abortion is not a decision that any woman would make without a lot of Soul searching! Apart from the physical effect there is the emotional hurt as well. I cannot see why a woman would be so inhumanely expected to bear a child conceived through rape and then have to rear a child she did not want and therefore the child also would suffer, feeling unwanted in life! These barbaric “Laws” show us how far we are from equality and how afraid some are of the power of the feminine energy.
We must be careful not to judge those who are making and supporting such terrible laws because in truth they are simply people who have vacated themselves and then their empty shells have been filled by an energy that is not love. We must not identify with what comes through an abandoned body but see it as just that, a person who has gone AWOL.
I remember getting pregnant. I was in a relationship and I always knew that I wanted to be super responsible when I brought a child into the world because it is a big deal. The relationship I had with myself was rocky and it followed the relationship with my partner was also rocky, though would seem pretty ok to others. But I knew we weren’t living in a way that would support a child in the world to be who they are. I was very irresponsible and left things to chance. But my body gave me the grace of an ectopic pregnancy. I knew it wasn’t bad luck for me but a reflection of what I already knew inside. Had I been pregnant normally then I do not know if I would have been responsible enough to have made a choice that was true for all concerned.
It is truly incredible that in 2017 we’re making laws that are sending us straight back into the dark ages. Thanks for this insightful blog Gyl and for raising the awareness of how far we’ve allowed ourselves to drop as a whole human race.
‘I knew in my circumstance this was the correct and most loving choice to make. I took everything into account’. – This is a very important point Gyl, women do not make this decision lightly, they do not choose to have an abortion without having taken everything into account.
What is it that we women are doing – or not doing – that allows laws like this to dictate over the rights a woman has of her own body… Certainly it is important to voice disgust on these antiquated laws towards women, but for it to happen we must have ‘dropped the ball’ along the way and disempowered ourselves to allow this to happen. Perhaps this is the impetus to pick up the ball.
This shouldn’t be about women’s rights to choose abortion or not. It should be everybody’s right to decide in any given situation. That this isn’t common sense, let alone the polar opposite in law and ACCEPTED, is a crime of the highest degree. That is the opposite of love!! Thank you Gyl Rae to raise awareness and attention to this subject and the responsibility we all have in this world.
When we can get ourselves to the point of asking, and answering honestly “What if having an abortion was actually taking a deep level of responsibility?” We will be honouring not just the woman’s choice but also the quality of society we live in.
I agree Rosanna, currently there is still so much stigma around having an abortion, even if women do choose this from a complete place of knowing and love for themselves. As society, communities and humanity we need to feel and look a lot deeper into this, instead of the few token ill ideals or beliefs that are thrown around which as you have presented in your article are very archaic and dire. We need to have a better understanding about our lives as a whole energetically.
The thing is Stephen the control is not just by men, many woman are involved and have a part to play in this too. To say the control all comes from men would be a lie, women can equally abuse women, if not more so too.
We as women also do this to ourselves and other women by how we choose to live everyday.
The case of a law where a partner raping a woman and then stopping her aborting show we have lost our grip on what is abusive and what is respectful and caring for women. Removing the rights of an individual on the basis of gender is something that has happened for aeons, and yet we call ourselves civilised in these times. If we use Arkansas as the example here we could say it is far away for most of us, like Saudi Arabia is, or North Korea as two further examples. But what happens in these places is deeply affected by what we bring through as our choices on a daily basis, how we ourselves choose to live and interact with one another. Could we consider that when we act with care and true love for another wherever we are in the world, it impresses a way of being that travels unseen across the globe. It is certainly worth considering that this is the case.
I appreciate your openness in this blog Gyl. It’s reveals the lack of equality that still exists between men and women in our so called ‘civilised society’ and also reflects where we are as a society that laws can still be passed that are so demeaning and dishonouring of a fellow brother- whether they be male or female.
We live in a world where responsibility at times is judged to be wrong, unethical, or irresponsible; that is due to the standards, ideals or beliefs that it is measured by. Energetic responsibility only knows one measure – the consideration of everyone equally under the law of free will.
This goes to show us the responsibility we all have, non stop, to never ever judge another for anything – like absolutely nothing – no matter how big or small. This can be from what someone wears, what they eat, what they say, what car they drive, to choices such as having an abortion, we judge others on everything – honestly judging another is very destroying and there is no denying it hurts. This is where lack of trust comes from with people.
The fact that abortion is illegal in so many places just goes to show how little we have evolved as a society. We think we have because our technology is now so sophisticated, but with our minds and beliefs back in the dark ages these laws clearly exposed we haven’t moved on at all.
The responsibility of birth control and family planning has been increasingly embraced and encouraged by most developed countries and is recognized as a hugely responsible exercise by all parties. It is rightly seen as a choice that impacts not just the individuals but the whole society. Yet still when a woman make choices about abortion as part of such a responsibility, there is an underlying current of judgment that suggests she should feel wrong, guilty and ashamed. This attitude is completely inconsistent and out of context to the level of awareness and responsibility which as a society we have learned to start to embrace. This mentality should be called for the dishonouring, bullying and fanaticism that it truly is.
Being human means we will make mistakes, it is inevitable and when we do, we need loving support to help us. And even if it isn’t a mistake, for example, if a woman has been raped, she obviously needs super loving support which may involve terminating an unwanted pregnancy.
Sensational Gyl for calling out the corruption and clear domination of these laws and how they are affecting women. It is just plain indecency to see that laws and practices like this can be passed and allowed to rule our society in the 21st century, then again we haven’t really gone far if this is still occurring.
This issue is so deeply personal, and how caring for someone to write of their own experience, thus paving the way for others to feel their own way… thank you Gyl.
Politicians and law makers seem to only be arguing over their own personal or religion views on abortion, but no one is asking what WOMEN actually deserve, need and are calling for when it comes to their own bodies, which is completely absurd.
It is a huge step of responsibility to have an abortion, even if in a committed relationship, how many couples go on to have babies that they do not feel ready for or cannot financially support, and how much pressure does this put on the family or a couple’s relationship.
Thank you Gyl for your honesty and for presenting some of the laws being enacted in a country that likes to call itself progressive and which is deeply critical of other countries who follow different dogmas. That this is happening in the world anywhere is a reflection on us all and there is clearly much work to be done to call out the complete hypocrisy of the ideals and beliefs that are driving this misogyny and having such a tragic impact on so many lives, not just the women directly involved but also any children unfortunate enough to be born into such a toxic situation and anyone living under such a regime where personal choice and responsibility is denied.
Gyl thank you for writing about your own experience with abortion as it is very much needed. For me my body belongs to me so no one can say what I have or don’t have to do. It is really time to stopp all these beliefs and pictures around abortion, as it is so much more important to take our own responsibility, than listening to the world outside. If more women would live like this, I am sure the world would look different.
This seems like a barbaric way of thinking that allows men to dominate women, take away their choice(s) and impose their own view on the life of another. About as far from loving as can be.
The Dark Ages may have passed and we may have progress in a myriad of ways that we can and ought to champion, but the seed of separation and abuse remains. And hence a woman’s body is still perceived with the same mindset, albeit dressed up in a more modern apparel – a woman’s body is still not regarded as her own, sovereign, in absoluteness, in sacredness, her own. A woman’s body is still to be judged, criticised, mistreated and abused – and we are deeply deluded if we do not see that we have moved on very little from the Dark Ages in this regard.
Thanks Gyl, another open and honest account from yourself – as well as an educational and thought provoking read. When you break it down the way you have, you realise how manipulation and bullying is built into law and thus society. It’s shocking and feels like something out of the dark ages. And why? Old beliefs and religious manifest? To control women so as to take away their connection to their body? Yes and yes.
“A pregnant woman’s husband will have the power to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape” This is a law in supposedly one of the most advanced and forward thinking countries of our time? How has something so backward been passed as law?
The treatment of abortion is a litmus test for a society and individuals how they treat women and their interests.
The notion that as a man I might have the ‘right’ to a sexual relationship with my wife feels completely wrong and devoid of love. When I connect to the love that I am there is no part of me that wants any right that goes against the choice of another. Choice is at the heart of love and what is more – making love once is worth a lifetime of sexual relief.
Maybe by looking at it though the lens of how men treat women or how women have devalued themselves is actually missing the bigger picture here? Should we not be looking at the structures and institutions that foster these kinds of dogmas and belief systems? Is that the route to exposing the true evil that is at play here?
There is such an innate and gross arrogance behind these laws – an assumption that everyone would want to even be part of this life that we are all living. Try looking at it another way – what child would even want to be born into a world that treated women this way.
What if, for many women an abortion is the responsible thing to do? How irresponsible is it for wider society and the law to prevent this?
“are many, if not all of these women who choose to have abortions actually making a very loving and responsible choice for themselves and others?
Given that it is their body, their life, and a choice they will have to live with for the rest of their life, is it not their right and choice to make it?” without a doubt I agree with this, what does amaze me is how we can be so blinded from the truth by certain beliefs that we can think anything other than this.
It would appear from above that whilst the world focuses on certain strands of Islam and their suppression of women’s rights, and rightly so, perhaps we would do well to remember that such suppression exists just as strongly in the heart of western society, as the recent laws passed in the USA show. It would appear that hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Great call “It would appear that hypocrisy knows no bounds.” I read your comment the other day and it stayed with me. It is true that suppression of women comes in many ways and even in the highly held western societies there is still very much to talk about too. It is in the smallest ways we are with ourselves as women and how we as society are with each other. There are no separate parts really.
A great exposure into the insanity that prevails in much of our society at the moment.
There is still a complete lack of equality between men and women, in women in the way we value ourselves and in so many men seeing women as a threat and needing to have power over us. When we can all rediscover our inner and innate tenderness, then there can be change.
Yes, it requires both men and women to make major changes – there is the imposition from the men and there is the support, directly or indirectly, from the women for these measures.
This is a classic situation where woman are being ignored, abused and made a mockery of. Without being a feminist it is obvious that there is something that needs to change. The value that we bring and to whom it is for, is worth beyond what we can imagine.
And it is because we know that ‘value’ and know that we are so far from it, that we prefer to try to squash it rather than have it, and the tension in our lives, reflected to us – we choOse to suppress rather than embrace, and so yet further we drive ourselves from our innate and equal divinity.
Beautiful article Gyl. This is a much needed topic to discuss. From where I stand women have the right and say over whether they have an abortion or not. This can be a very responsible decision to make. And absolutely certainly a woman should not be subjected to having to keep a child that has been conceived through rape. The recent new bills are are part of supremacy energy and control over women and their bodies. There is such a righteous punishing energy around such moves which actually feels quite sick. Thank you again for giving us this blog Gyl.
When we begin to see everyone as our equal, be it man or woman, race or colour, then we will know that no one has the right to harm anyone or to impose their beliefs on another. A women’s choice to have an abortion should be just that – her choice, for she is the one in a position to know what is the most honouring and self-loving responsible choice for her to make. When are we going to put these archaic laws to rest for all time and stop this self-righteous judgement of others.
Gyl firstly I appreciate your openess, power and beauty in being so transparent in sharing your story as well as the bigger picture and how it had impacted you in the past, feeling guilt and shame, although you did what was true but the external forces impose on us as women to make us wrong. This is a powerful blog, this is about all of us as women, where laws are made about ‘right’s over our body’. What is this really saying is that woman are treated in a way as ‘animals’. The power, the love, the wisdom and knowing of a woman is completely ‘wiped’ , crushed and she is perceived as a ‘sex’ that needs laws made against her because she is ‘stupid, immoral, unethical, lesser than etc etc???
As you have stated Gyl, ‘What if having an abortion was actually taking a deep level of responsibility?’ This statement is absolute truth, as women choose abortion because it is not true to give birth and raise a child for the reasons that they hold. This needs to be valued. To bring a child into world by force one would ask what is the purpose of this, how would this impact on the child, and so forth. A woman knows very deeply what is true, but society makes her wrong, and imposes on her laws to control the woman. As women we truly need to reclaim our inner essence, the power that resides within which is in our wisdom, love, all knowing, strength and so forth. Not fall prey to the shame and guilt that is set up so we do not claim our power. Complete manipulation and control.
Thank you Gyl for this expose, which highlights for me the unjustness that follows from the lack of understanding of what responsibility means, and as such our utter lack of embracing it or allowing others to. Through our choice to relinquish our responsibility we then seek to justify imposing control over others, in not allowing the choice of responsibility to rightly be theirs. The choice to have a child is one of responsibility, from both parents, and so abortion is then equally a choice of responsibility, love and of honesty, knowing that the unborn child was not seeded in love. What sense does it make to force another to continue to be held in a loveless situation, and for a child to be born in that impress? The consciousness around abortions today is harming, oppressive, and grossly corrupts the right for a woman to choose what happens to her body, as she is knowingly aware if the child is to be born of love or not. We are otherwise robbing women the opportunity to deeply heal through deepening her relationship with honesty, self-love, self-respect and self-honoring. Regardless of the situation that led to the point of an abortion, through reflection and with support what is in fact offered is a chance to heal, make corrections and stand more firmly in truth in order to honor and re-claim the power of sacredness that all women hold within their bodies.
Should this even be a debate? You are right it is a woman’s body and therefore her choice as she should have all the support and options laid out to her in a non bias way so she can make the choice that is right for her. The bills that have been passed here are it would seem like in many respects we are still living in the dark ages, something I know I and many others certainly no longer want to do.
The need in us to have a child is something to honestly look at. Need does not serve a child it is solely self serving.
Gyl the law that has just been passed in Arkansas is archaic to say the least and is a very troubling reflection of the power that men still wield over women. What’s also hugely significant is that the new law will be supported by a significant number of women, proving that consciousnesses come through both sexes equally.
Yes, it is quite alarming to notice that these laws about abortion are also supported by women. There is much imposition of one’s own beliefs about abortion from women onto other women, why the control and where is the free will?
‘Given that it is their body, their life, and a choice they will have to live with for the rest of their life, is it not their right and choice to make it?’ – and doesn’t this apply to us all in all situations? We live the life we choose and if our choice is made from a deeply loving, honest and energetically responsible place, then it is the true choice. Are those that sit in judgement and make these laws aware of what is driving them? It feels like it is an old way playing out in difference words, different era and with different faces.
When we talk about rights we also need to talk about free will, ie. spiritual free will that is equal in a fetus and a pregnant woman. As long as we reduce our existence to just being human we miss the bigger picture and our answers and solutions will fall short, and thus create more of the same insufficiency that already dominates most of societal life.
Great contribution Alex. So long as we continue to believe we are just the body we inhabit, there will continue to be high emotions about the ‘rights and wrongs’ of abortion. Understanding that there is an energetic being within us all (a foetus included) that exists far beyond the constraints of the physical and temporal life most of us hold as the pinnacle of existence, we also understand that each one of these spirits has the free-will to choose in every moment and also has karma to clear as a result of some of those choices. In short nothing happens to us that isn’t either a choice, or as a direct result of past choices.
Abortion is still illegal in two states in Australia – Queensland and New South Wales.You can find out more here: https://prochoiceqld.org.au/
In what as seen as such a progressive country as Australia I feel it is quite amazing that abortion is illegal in two states. Having a child is a huge commitment and women needs to be given the choice to decide what is best for them which in the end is ultimately also best for the baby. Bringing a child into the world when the mother is not ready or not in a stable relationship will make it much more difficult to support a child growing up.
I didn’t know about that law that has been passed in Arkansas. That is so insane – it is literally like something from the dark ages or some crazy horror story – I mean it’s so mind-glowingly obviously wrong on so many levels, that I can’t even fathom how on earth it could be justified – unless of course they were under the abusive and toxic belief systems that are fostered by some organised religions. There is no other way to describe this other than pure evil.
‘I knew in my circumstance this was the correct and most loving choice to make. I took everything into account’. An important point to share Gyl, that a choice to have an abortion is often a deeply considered one based and takes into account the long-term wellbeing of the woman and foetus.
Abortion brings up so much for so many. Every situation is different, but is always the same in that, no person has any right what so ever to impose their opinion or judgment upon another. Life is a cycle of death and rebirth – we don’t know what karmic balance, learning and evolving is occurring for everyone. There is no ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ in abortion , it just is… like everything else, but there must ALWAYS be free choice.
The Arkansas law is very exposing – the kind of item that is quoted 100 years later in school showing graphically just how backward today’s times are.
I agree Christoph and it’s horrific to be part of this history – because in truth we are all responsible for this. Any single one of us that has turned our backs on any single item of news about a child molestation, money laundering, abuse of women, corruption or any of the other heinous crimes that some of these religions commit with impunity and gross regularity has to take responsibility for a situation as extreme as the Arkansas Law. When a supposedly ‘civilised’ society can behave like this, then we all have to accept how very far off track we are. The question then becomes – what are we prepared to do about it?
Both of you have quoted “…like something from 100 years ago”. But I’m not sure that I concur, in that I would suggest that this a regression unlike almost anything. Because when you put it into context of where we should be and could be in terms of equality and brotherhood, how we should be and could be treating each other and sit it alongside the supposed advances that have been made in society’s equal treatment of the sexes, then this is a truly astonishingly regressive giant leap backwards. With everything that we know and have seen – to be passing a law like this is a mind blowing indictment of where we are at.
Thank you Gyl for this wonderful article. Thank you also Rebecca for your very insightful comment above. Rebecca, you made a fantastic point when you talked about what is going to happen to the children who grow up knowing they are the product of rape/incest/unwanted. The psychological scaring is huge and we know that this type of background does support dysfunctional adults. This most definitely is the abuse of power and will lead us down a very tragic path.
The level of misogyny that runs through our cultures must be incredibly rife for women to be denied the right to choose what happens to their own bodies. That said how many women subscribe to the same beliefs due to a lack of self worth? For this level of abuse against women to change, women need to start appreciating the value of their worth, and as Victoria Warburton mentions above, the way to do this is to deeply feel the divine essence that comes from the body. To a woman who has not felt this, this can sound completely new age or airy fairy nonsense and quite off putting, but in having re-connected to the delicacy and power that I feel within my own body (located in the cervix and in the ovaries) I have started to cherish the delicacy I have felt and have realised how powerful it is to be a woman and have a woman’s body. Not so long ago I cursed it, now I couldn’t think of abusing it with even a negative thought. My body has become incredibly precious to me and I love to quietly celebrate it through nurturing it every day. As I age (I am now 46) I increasingly find that I feel more and more beautiful as a result, and more and more empowered as a woman.
I found it particularly shocking that a woman would be forced to view and see ultrasounds of the foetus. This seems a barbaric practice. Women are completely capable of choosing if seeing this image is going to support them or not. In my own personal case it definitely did not and I requested that I didn’t see the ultra sound and was very lovingly supported by the staff. I was already disappointed with myself for ending up pregnant and motherhood was such a precious thing to me that to not have the child was a devastating but a necessary choice and not one I regret but not one that we took lightly either.
These laws and bills are not designed for people, there is no love or understanding in them at all of what is going on in the world and how it is for a woman to become pregnant if it was not intended or forced upon her. Laws should be made about people and to support people to deeply care for themselves.
I agree Lieke Campbell. We fail humanity miserably when we create laws that coerce a woman to have a child against her inner knowing. We think we are protecting an unborn child, but we fail to take into deep consideration the quality of that child’s life once born. Is it truly loving law to force a woman to bring a child into a loveless relationship and/ or society that fails to deeply cherish people?
Yes it is true, there is not looked any further than protecting an unborn child, as for instance what quality of upbringing is this child going to have and what effect will this have on this child’s adult life?
I agree Lieke, ‘laws and bills are not designed for people’ and neither are the courts, we need to change the way we are thinking around the laws we pass to bring understanding, love and truth, so that it is about people first.
We are yet at another cross roads, another issue over which the mentality and consciousness of centuries gone by is butting up against common sense. We do not allow the opinions of say, vegans, who are against the killing of animals because it is cruel etc, to prevent people having the right to eat as they wish. In America, they do not let the hundreds and thousands of preventable deaths at the hands of gun violence, get in the way of peoples right to carry fire arms, because in this case, one persons right to the freedom to do as they wish is more important the all the loss of life it may cause (not to mention the heavy financial backing they get from the gun companies).
However, it is acceptable for the views of a few (often based on their personal interpretation of one religion or another) to dictate and determine what a woman is or isn’t allowed to do with her own body. This is not as simple as stopping your kid getting a tattoo they might regret, this is preventing a woman from the legal right over her own body, to do as she feels is best. And the argument that it is killing a life is very hypocritical considering that many will in the same breath shun the child if it grows up to be gay, comes from a different country or nationality, was born out of wedlock etc – you cannot pick and choose when a life is important and when it is not. And are they planning on giving financial, physical and mental support to every woman forced into the life long commitment to raise a child that they don’t want? Are we planning to also support the child that will grow up in a home where they are not wanted, a loveless family, knowing that they are a product of rape or in poverty because the parents or mother cannot afford a child? Will the father of the child be as equally bound to the commitment as the mother is forced to be?
When we allow ideals and beliefs to run our systems and dictate how we view the world and interact with others, we end up in situations that get out of control and often harm many people. The question is how long we will allow this kind of abuse of power to continue before we call them to account.
Same sex marriages are now happening, but women are still standing in line to have control over their bodies. It is well past time, to ring the bell and have the last calls on the ideals, beliefs and controls we put on others.
I entirely agree with what you’re presenting here Gyl, I think it’s an important point to say that just because a women is having an abortion is doesn’t mean it is the forever end of a life for the foetus and what if actually it is the most loving thing to do for both the unborn and the women and so not a selfish thing in fact.
Goodness me, what rights does a woman have over her own body with these laws passed?… This is unbelievable..
What if accepting women’s right to decide themselves over their own body is equally loving for both men and women! As a world we desperately need our women’s stillness, delicateness, love and nurturing nature. Thank you Gyl for standing up! On behalf of all women AND men.
This is a huge subject, and a very emotive one for many. It’s interesting how the woman’s body is not seen as something that belongs to her, and that laws can be placed to govern and control women’s choices around this subject. As a society we are a long way from honouring women and their bodies in the way they deserve. It’s frightening how it is seen to be ok any other way.
Your openness and honesty Gyl is a commendable example for us all. When I read the article, I could feel how much this and other stories get hidden from life, lots of us have these ’skeletons in the cupboard’, but we attempt to portray a perfection that is a lie. Your truth is refreshing to read, and letting go of the guilt is very healing.
What you present here is interesting Gyl and it raises the question for me of why does the world seem fixated on allowing a child to be born no matter what, without really questioning or examining what quality of life that child or parent will have?
Interesting post Gyl, yes, whether to have a baby, or to not and in cases the woman to abort are both personal decisions that entail the understanding of (greater) responsibility involved, and so to have that right taken away to choose is the indecency, not the act itself.
The question that always arises for me when I hear about laws being passed that control a woman’s choice in relation to abortion, is that there is all this supposed concern for the foetus, and yet there is no concern over the health and wellbeing of the woman, who let’s remember, was once a foetus herself. These double-standards are so hypocritical in my eyes.
Abortion is not to be used as a form of contraception, but to bring a child into this world when one is not ready to is the true irresponsibility.
A much needed topic to be discussed and brought out into the open about what is going on which is quite horrific in this day and age. The true responsibility we know as women inside us to have a child or not and the circumstances we are in need to be honoured and claimed for ourselves and allow a true respect for the love we are and the abuse of this needs to be uncovered and stopped by us speaking up the honouring of all we are.
Abortion is a subject that is rarely openly and honestly discussed, this article much needed as are more like this to be honest about the abuse, the objectification of women and how it is allowed to be played out.
It’s amazing how many things we can worry about doing, saying etc because of what other people might think of us.
The real question in what you raise for me, is how is this possible? What has led us to the fact that we can have so much guilt and shame around abortion and so much attack is made on women and their right to do what feels true and supportive for themselves and their wider family and community? It seems clear that the incredible sacredness and power that women have inside them is what is being attacked here, and laws regarding abortion are just one of many ways.
Are some of these Bills that get passed to prevent women from having an abortion, or making it a crime if she does, coming from the same consciousness or set of beliefs that prevent women from having access to contraception?
To see this level of abuse happening in 2017 from our governments is really a huge stop moment we are not advancing as a civilisation we are most certainly involuting. The question surely then is why? Why is there this level of force coming towards women, as I understand it there is now more love and awareness and ease in connecting to the universal intelligence we are surrounded by and a lot of this is due to the reaction to the that power. The only counter therefore must be to surrender to what is on offer and live that power. No more internal abuse as women are masters of so that the world can stop reflecting the catastrophic impact of this on ourselves.
“So the question I would ask when all things are considered, is, are many, if not all of these women who choose to have abortions actually making a very loving and responsible choice for themselves and others?” This is a superb question that turns the whole debate on its head. The depth of manipulation around this subject does make one wonder if abortion is a much bigger gift to mankind than we truly realise, the ability we have to discern when is the correct time and place to have a baby is enormous and every which way we turn we encounter a force that is attempting to supress it.
Thank you for raising this important topic Gyl – I am a little lost for words to be honest. One thing that does occur to me is for us all to reflect deeply on intimate sexual relationships and our choices around them. What are we seeking when we enter into a sexual encounter that is in truth not based on love but an emotional need for intimacy in some way? Are we expressing from a sense of emptiness we feel rather than in the fullness of who we are – hence trying to fill that emptiness in some way? Perhaps we get some light relief from a sexual encounter but to me this does not provide a lasting solution. If we are seeking truly loving encounters then perhaps we need to choose to be love first and then embrace our sexual relationships from this foundation. Sex without love does not offer us anything truly lasting – but in my experience, a relationship built on love first does just that.
What is worse, an abortion where no child is born or a girl/woman forced to go full term with her pregnancy only to have the child adopted away within two weeks of its birth? Some women who have experienced that within the Catholic religion spend their whole lives not knowing what happened to their child, unable to contact them, it’s heartbreaking.
This is a much needed topic of conversation. A taboo topic, through shame, fear and guilt women have kept silent on abortion and it is time that we discussed and shared openly, as you have Gyl. It is shocking to find out that in an American state, “A pregnant woman’s husband will have the power to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape”.
’So the question I would ask when all things are considered, is, are many, if not all of these women who choose to have abortions actually making a very loving and responsible choice for themselves and others?’ – Indeed they are, true responsibility is to completely honour what feels true to you as a woman and your own body.
I was wondering why abortion is illegal in Northern Ireland and my guess is that it must be related to the Catholic religion. If this is true then the decision is not made based on the wellbeing of people but on a distorted religious beliefs that are harmful, about control and not at all loving or supportive for its people.
This is a well researched and well documented article. I am all for woman making their own choices when it comes to abortions, it is entirely up to her, as she is the one that will have to house the baby. What I am about to share next may be misunderstood but it is my view that there are times when both parties should make the decision together and that is when making the decision to have a child. Many woman take the stance that it is their body and therefore they make the choice about having a child. In my opinion this is not the whole truth, in the case of choosing to have a child both the mother and father should be on the same page, as they are both going to be living with that choice. In this area I feel men are too easily dismissed.
Well said Sarah
Abortion can be a very emotive issue and it can easily insight reaction and righteousness amongst us. Though if we put all that aside and feel the woman, and the situation as a whole we may begin to bring a greater understanding to both the immediate and the broader responsibility. These laws do reek of the dark ages; an attempt to shut down the sacredness and power women hold in their bodies, not for themselves alone but for all of us. Where will we end up if we continue to devalue and shut down the truth of what we both men and woman bring, our truest responsibility.
The power of free choice in society must come from us exercising our will to express and claim what we know to be true.
Where are we as a society when a man can rape his wife and then forbid her to have an abortion? To even consider that this is okay is a crime against all women.
I agree Sandra this is just so barbaric it’s hard to believe it is from a so called civilised country in this day and age. Sounds like a law passed in medieval times.
“Deep down in my body I absolutely knew and know the level of responsibility and integrity I want to have a child with, and the responsibility I have and want to parent them in.” So awesome Gyl, and would this not be the same for all of us – women and men… we all deeply know and feel the difference between abuse and truly loving connection with others, and we know which we prefer, so why wouldn’t that be how we choose to bring our children into the world too.
It is conversations like you present here Gyl that are so needed – we as women have a responsibility not only for ourselves but for humanity too. As you mentioned “I was not and I am not willing, to bring a child into this world in a loveless and abusive relationship or out of pure need.” This is being responsible for yourself and for the next generation that follows – do we want them brought up in an abusive family, to see that as normal and to perpetuate that abuse for future generations, or do we want our children to grow up to be loving responsible members of our communities, for humanity?
There are, and have been over centuries, so many decisions made about women that come from pictures, ideals and beliefs, that are totally unfounded in fact, and do not take into consideration the woman herself… however where are all the women who are saying no to these laws, saying no to abuse, saying no to disempowerment? Somewhere along the way we as women have totally bought into these ideals and beliefs and lessened ourselves.
It is amazing to consider that laws are still being created to dis-empower women over their choices with their bodies well-being. While we become super modernised in technology, advancements, proud of achievements and think we are doing great – none of this takes into account the suffering, injustice and in-humane treatment people go through every moment of the day. It would be great if half the energy used to control and manipulate people and women (still) was spent on pondering the truth of where humanity is at, and in this might reveal an understanding of why there is a call for abortions.
Great call Gyl and I agree there are circumstances where the choice to have an abortion is absolutely appropriate and a very responsible thing to do, such as a loveless relationship or not enough support, financial and other, for the woman to feel safe to have a child, not to speak of rape, incest, etc. The choice to have a child should consider the woman and her body deeply.
Discussion around ‘abortion’ can be emotive and most often calls on personal beliefs and ideals and past experiences which create a block to what is true. If we were to discuss what is truly loving and caring for one’s body and way of living then with the emotiveness gone the right to choose is more available and accepted. There are many layers being imposed on women in this situation which cover-up the much deeper control, manipulation and absolute disregard of women and who they truly are.
I find it interesting that there is such fervour to protect a foetus by those who do not and will not ever know the person or the situation concerned, but yet it is not there for the children who are already here and living on this planet. We need to ask is this fervour really about protecting the unborn children? If it was, should not the same level of support be shown to all children regardless of where they are?
Great point Jennifer and what about the enormous levels of violence and sexual abuse that happen in the home. The statistics on this and slavery and other crimes against humanity are horrendous and known harm whereas there is little evidence of it being harmful to the woman to abort an early stage foetus, and in fact, they may choose to depart themselves, such as with miscarriage, if the timing does not feel right.
This is a great point. There is so much discrepancy in this picture and in the emotions chucked around by those opposing abortion. Something is very wrong when our starting point is not the love and care of people who are here on this planet already.
The recent law changes around abortion in Ireland and Arkansas are a deep retardation of our development as a species. But if we shine a light up to these decisions and expose their heartless cruel lack of love and care then they could become a solid reflection of how it is not to live and care for one another in our supposedly enlightened and civilised times.
It’s interesting stepping back and looking at what is the intention behind these laws. They feel like just another more ‘modern’ way of controlling the sacredness and power that women innately are and hold.
This is horrendous to read – how on earth can we as women and men allow this absolute denigration and disrespect of women and womens right to make decisions regarding their own bodies to take place. Thanks Gyl, for starting this conversation.
A much needed topic of discussion Gyl – abortion has been associated with the women being blamed and judged for a very long time, Where is the responsibility of the men who get women pregnant in the first place and many not having any interest in the consequences of this.
You can’t blame men, a woman has a choice always – both parties have a responsibility to take – rape of course is different.
Well said Gyl, it is a great responsibility to bring a child into this world and if we are not ready for that then it is indeed responsible to terminate.
Thank you Gyl for your openness about abortion and giving us information about very abusive and shocking laws where women are viewed as worthless and under command of her husband convicted to have a child even after been raped. Unbelievable. I fully agree with you that having an abortion should be considered a very loving and responsible choice to make. Women are very wise and this can never be stopped although these laws and the abuse that is happening all around the world is trying very hard.
Brilliant article Gyl, and smackingly revealing of where we are as a global society – well how little has truly progressed in our relationship with women and towards women. The laws that have recently passed along with the anti-abortion stance that reigns in many developed as well as undeveloped countries now is a clear token of how women are perceived – so far from the sacredness they hold as women. The stance on abortion is a direct attack on a woman’s sacredness that resides within her female body and therefore a direct attack on humanity itself – that is, a deliberate move to remove man, woman and child from the sacred essence they are that we will all remember and reconnect to when a woman holds herself in the sacredness that she is.
The attack on the woman’s body has been for eons for this reason…
Wow that is shocking to read about the law passed recently in Arkansas. But at the same time it also feels like another hurdle for women to revolt against because once again we are seen as inferior. But at the same time women keep abortion as a secret. And yet there is so much value in women speaking up about their experiences and having a voice. I went through an abortion when I was younger – and again I told no one – which actually fed the culture of under rug swept. When in reality it was the most loving thing I could do at the time.
Same for me HM. The circumstances of the abortion I had when I was 19 also made it the most loving thing I could do at the time – for all.
It would seem that that the policies and views of abortions in society are fluctuating all the time. It is known that there have been periods in history where abortions were condemned and seen to be utterly shameful and horrid. And equally there have been times when they have been legalised and endorsed by our systems. And while there have definitely been many who have at times embraced abortions for the love, care and support they can bring, I have noticed there has been (including within myself) a judgement or criticism that holds abortions as being a bad or ‘dirty’ thing. Almost as if to say, ‘what have you been up to’ when you witness someone having an abortion. This to me highlights that there has still been an undertone in society, even through the times when abortions are embraced, that views them as somewhat shameful acts that expose someone’s ‘bad’ choices. This is certainly not the love, care and holding that these women deserve and are asking for in such times of their lives.
Abortion is a massive choice for any woman, it’s so important we have the opportunity to decide what happens to our bodies and if or when we want to have children. And I agree that if we know it’s not right, choosing to abort a pregnancy can be the most responsible choice we make, there should be no shame or guilt around choosing what we know is both true and right for us and our futures.
Ever since I have met Serge Benhayon I have been deeply moved by seeing the level of care and honouring with which each person is supported to heal their issues, connect with their own essence, and expand their own awareness and understanding about all aspects of life. In contrast what is described in this blog about women being in effect bullied into living a life dictated and dominated by others in disregard of choice and circumstance of the woman herself I find horrific and quite barbaric.
It is truly amazing how our bodies are able to reproduce. Parenting is by far the toughest job I have had and not one I have taken lightly, nor is terminating a pregnancy. It is an area that seems filled with conflict. A termination is not a decision that is made lightly in my case the potential trauma on me and my existing family of having another child compounding exhaustion, depression and financial stress felt far more harmful that the choice to terminate a pregnancy. Are we devaluing the responsibility of parenting by creating these complications around a termination, are we saying alright you got pregnant you have to be a parent whether or not you want to? It seems like a crazy logic leading to traumatised mothers and abandoned and rejected children.
This really does reek of The Dark Ages; control and abuse of a woman’s body, shaming and psychological and emotional manipulation.
Let’s look deeply at what is offered here. It is not so much the debate or regulations around abortion, but the very insidious treatment of women world wide that is being exposed.
That is true – when the rights of women and the rights of ideals collide it can be painful to watch what is winning out.
We need more women to speak so openly about abortion – that the falsity of the stigma associated with it can be eradicated. There is much work to be done in this! Thank-you Gyl, for being a part of this conversation, and demonstrating the starkness of the laws in place, let alone the entrenchment of belief systems and attitudes that allow such things to fester and come into reality.
We are all called to be aware of the slightest part of us that would say that this isn’t ok… and not shirk from the fact that if we say abortion isn’t ok (in any way – including it being seen as the slightest bit shameful…), we are essentially denying every woman empowerment in her own physical body.
Well said Victoria. If we as women hold even one little skerrik of shame or guilt about abortion, this abates the current status quo which is thwarting the woman’s sacred expression over her own body.
How powerful must the woman truly in command of her own life and body be, that we yet have such a plethora of laws and bills even recently passed, that seek to control her?
This is not about being ‘pro-choice’ or ‘no choice’, it’s about restoring the sacred connection with the divine quality held in every woman’s body, from which she knows without question her own choices, and deserves to be supported in them in full, without exception.
“So the question I would ask when all things are considered, is, are many, if not all of these women who choose to have abortions actually making a very loving and responsible choice for themselves and others?” This is indeed a great question to ask Gyl. When so many children are born that are not planned, or through unloving relationships or one night stands, this gives women enormous support to know that to abort a pregnancy is actually ok. Imagine if all children were born to couples who were truly loving with each other and who made a very conscious and deliberate choice to bring a child into the world. What a different world we would live in.
Thank you for raising the topic of abortion Gyl. We don’t talk about it enough because of the shame so many women feel around having one. The points you raise are worth discussing and I feel until more female and male voices are heard in support of a women’s right to decide what happens to her body, shocking legislation like the ones you have outlined will continue.
Thank you Gyl for this well needed expose on what some of the women in our world are being subjected to as far as their own personal choices are concerned. I almost get a sense that there is such fear through some sectors of the community of women claiming their true power so at every opportunity there is a movement to stop this happening. This is crazy really because it is through women claiming their natural power that this mixed up world has a chance at healing its many ills.
Amazing blog Gyl. We have to redefine what responsibility for a life is. Yes abortion takes away a living tiny being which could have lived as a human being otherwise, but do we consider how it is going to have to live when it comes into a life of people who are forced to have the child, not ready, not in a great financial positions, not in a solid relationship of love? What quality of life are we then offering? Something I feel is not taken into account at all when the decisions you wrote about above are being made.
It is absolutely the woman’s choice. Offering such a procedure in an environment where there is medically trained staff, hygienic premises and where the woman is provided with much care and understanding, is a must. We must look at the past and know that never should we return to those days where home abortions were cruel and dangerous to the lives of women.
I felt like I was back in the Dark Ages when I read these statistics Gyl, and shocked to realise the depth of disregard, dishonouring, denigrating and abuse of women that still occurs through laws such as these. A woman’s body is hers to feel for herself what is true and act on it – full stop. No control or manipulation from an outer source is ever in the woman’s best interest and to dress it up in any other way exposes just how evil the energy at play is.
It is hard to read this and not react. I am from NZ where women were given the vote first in the world, you can freely get an abortion apart from a few protestors. When I had an abortion – that was a consequence of being raped, I actually asked to see a picture of what the foetus was like – it was being described as being no bigger than a cashew nut – I wanted the facts and the full facts. The foetus at that stage was fully formed with all the organs growing, just super tiny. I spent every minute of every day thinking and pondering what was the right decision for me and the foetus. I absolutely made the decision to abort from love, understanding and responsibility. I can’t comprehend being in that same situation and having to fight for my right to bring an end to the pregnancy.
My feeling is that the anti-abortionists do not care about the welfare of the unborn child but more about controlling or punishing the woman. Of course any woman making the decision to not go full term with her pregnancy will have thought about it long and hard, and will not have arrived lightly at her decision, because it could put her own life at risk at the same time.
Great article Gyl, a subject that is very controversial and often not talked about without heavily biased religious influences.
Choosing to bring a child into this world is one of the most responsible decisions we can make and thus the decision to have an abortion can also be truly responsible. That governments around the world are trying to make this harder and allowing others more jurisdiction over women’s bodies is a deeply retrograde step and one wonders what they are afraid of? A woman connected to her sacredness is powerful and truly nurturing and outside forces are going to ever greater lengths to prevent this connection when it is what is needed to arrest the waywardness of humanity.
This article exposes how we go round in circles, that the supposed most advanced country in the world is not progressing at all when passing these laws. The abuse of women’s rights is still very deeply entrenched in areas of our society. Women have been misrepresented throughout history and the abuse will continue until we take more self responsibility.
Great article Gyl, and very much needed today. It would seem as though we are going back to the dark ages, where religion, oppression and control are legalised – it is crazy to pass a bill that makes it legal for a man to rape his wife and then veto an abortion. That sends a huge message to say that by law women have to accept violent abuse within her own home and that she has no rights there after what happens to her body.
I completely agree Gyl Rae, it is absolutely every woman’s right to choose whether to bear a child or abort and as you say it is a decision that encompasses every aspect of a woman’s life, her own wellbeing and that of her child, her ability to parent, the quality of relationship she is or isn’t in, the quality of the society she is living in. It is a massive decision and one not taken lightly, but the anti-abortion lobby holds such a narrow and restrictive view on this bigger picture. And what really is the outcome? What really are we committing these new born babies to if the mother has fallen pregnant from being raped, or knows deep down that she will not be able to fully parent this child with all her love from within a stable, strong family?
A great contribution to a topic that for so many is hugely emotionally charged and caught in ideals and beliefs that cloud that the issue.
Some great points Gyl and I agree with you, abortion does have its place after all things happen and bringing a being into this world is a massive responsibility, one we should prepare for and not take lightly. We all have a choice, no matter what, and denying this in any way does not respect the woman or the man involved. The choice comes back to us how responsible we choose to be, as ultimately every choice has consequences.
Gyl a great blog, abortion needs to be openly discussed and not hidden as a shameful act. I knew that when I had an abortion that I was taking a responsible choice for both myself, and the unborn child. I knew deep down that I was not ready or in a true place within myself to bring up a child in a way that would support them to grow into loving caring adults. The law that have been imposed in Arkansas is made with the intent to control women and has no place in our society today. The fact that this act was made in such a progressive country as America makes it all the more ugly and gives the green light for other States and countries to impose such a law on women, It feels like we are returning to the Dark Ages rather than 2017.
It would be interesting to observe how men would feel if a majority of women were to make decisions on their behalf around vasectomy…… As you say “We would never be allowed to control or tell a man what to do with his reproductive organs – so why are women being denied the same right to choose?”
Draconian policies attempting to force women into having unwanted children – what sort of life will they then both have? Shocking also to learn that some women are involved in these policy decisions. Where is the love and understanding?
Thankyou for your open and honest sharing Gyl. Your question “So the question I would ask when all things are considered, is, are many, if not all of these women who choose to have abortions actually making a very loving and responsible choice for themselves and others?” is a very wise one. Why bring unwanted children into a world when the mother-to-be knows it isn’t true or right at that time.
I agree Gyl, we do make mistakes at times and it is far more responsible to make our own decision to have a child or not, than to just have a child because we are pregnant. When I became pregnant, I was so caught up in the catholic belief around abortion being sinful that I did not feel I had a choice, but really it was easier for me to relinquish my responsibility to the church rather then make a choice at the time that was true to my circumstances.
This is a topic of conversation we all need to read and comment on. To be honest while out shopping in my local town I see parents who have children and I question to myself if they should really have them as the children are showing all signs of living in a non loving family relationship. And having come from that environment myself as a child I do know what it is like to be raised in a non loving family. It takes years to disassemble all the ideals and beliefs that were given to me that made me feel less than.
And it wasn’t necessarily my parents fault because at the time the ideal was that you got married and had kids it was all part and parcel of living a certain way of life. But not everyone wants to have children and to have them and resent them is very hard on the parent but especially so on the children concerned.
Absolutely it is the woman’s choice, and a very responsible one at that. We have enough struggling single mothers and unwanted children in this world. To make the choice to have a child is absolutely massive, and needs to be done with consideration to everyone concerned, even the child. Anyone who is anti-abortion is missing the point that it is actually an extremely responsible choice.
Super blog Gyl. It is utterly shocking that in the 21st century we are peddling very fast back in time towards the dark ages. It is unfathomable that in a so called modern country like the USA medieval beliefs based on the church’s rhetoric are denying the women the right to choose what is happening in their own bodies and lives. I have had an unwanted pregnancy – my family was complete and in my mid 40s I simply didn’t have the stamina for a third child. I was about to go into the process of abortion but then miscarried naturally. If I had been denied the right of this choice, life would have could have been incredibly difficult. It is a very responsible decision to have an abortion – women don’t undertake this lightly and it is very important that it is recognised as such.
Reading those legislations, especially the last one was quite eye opening, and yet I get the sense that this is only the top snowflake on the iceberg. And what really stands out to me is the fact that these bills get approved, which requires at some level of the process public consultation, there is at some point an open door to comment on, approve and/or oppose these bills. But how many of us know what is in the legal pipelines? who actually cares or is even aware of such until it gets passed and then becomes something we are bound by?
‘What if having an abortion was actually taking a deep level of responsibility?’ This perspective empowers women rather than makes them feel less and ashamed.
Gosh Gyl, how far have we gone where Bills such as these are passed in one of the so called most advanced countries in the world? The women I know who have had an abortion have not done so lightly. They have, like you, made very conscious decisions based on the circumstances and haven’t done so lightly or on a whim, but in consideration of all concerned.
There is so much personal emotional manipulation and imposing on women choosing or thinking about having abortions from other people. Women’s bodies have been controlled for far too long, but we as women have allowed that too. It’s not about going out there fighting, and becoming some raging, shouting protestors, but to live in absolute honour of and from the deep sacredness in our bodies. I am not living this in full yet – one day I will be.
Serge Benhayon is the only person I know to present on abortions in a way that respects the woman’s choice to do so, and offers healing to those who live with sadness, guilt and regret for having done so.
When a couple gets married it is meant to be for life. The vows define the equality of the relationship. I have never heard vows that had exceptions to the rules! Why should a woman be told and in many parts of the world be criminalized for choosing what feels right for her and her body?
The control over whether a woman is allowed to choose what is right for her body is a bullying imposition that comes with the ideals and beliefs of dominance and dogma. The sacredness of a woman’s body is her responsibility to nurture and treasure and no one else’s.
Gyl the topic of abortion is one that really needs to be raised and discussed far more openly, I am shocked by the bills that you mention yet they show what we still allow in society. I also feel there is something that is never spoken about and that is the perspective of what abortion is like for a man, what do they go through and as well as the controlling of women that these bills impose, what is it like for a man who has had a partner that goes through an abortion? That aside, no women should be denied the right to make a choice that is true for them, and no law or bill should subject anyone to something that is not in truth evolutionary.
Thank you Gyl for this amazing reflection on your experience and the responsibility that comes with all choices that we make. For me, it less about what a woman chooses, as each will make their own choice, but about having the ability to choose what happens to their body. All the proposals that try to restrict access to abortion are based on a judgement, a judgement that says there is a right and wrong answer to the question of abortion. When a judgment is cast about a person, situation or procedure, the individuals involved lose their ability to make a clear choice.
There does seem to be a powerful need by many men, and many authorities and religious institutions to control women. No-one is saying that we should all freely have casual sex and then abort, there is always the matter of responsibility. But the draconian measures of a state such as Arkansas in this example, the general feeling across the USA, Ireland and many other parts of the world is an ugly scar on our freedoms from abuse and what is means to take responsibility and be loving and understanding of one another and appreciation for women from men, instead of this ruling by fear.
Great topic Gyl. In recent times, I met women who were sharing the way of certain examinations, operations and rights during preganancy with me. In all 3 cases I was able to see the abuse behind the so called good which denigrates women and offsets them from their sacredness. Those examples are showing women have no rights concerning their bodies.
It is interesting to consider that God has given us free will, that all in life is there for us to learn and evolve and that life can be seen as divine, from God and very precious. On the other hand we have the institutionalised religions that have created a bastardized version of God and from that made doctrines that factually do hold us lesser and restricted, for instance by introducing guilt in our lives, in case we wield our divine free will and live in accordance with the universal laws, as opposed to the man made bastardised ones.
As long as we accept ideals and beliefs and hold morals over all-encompassing ethics we will not understand love, free will and responsibility as all three are free from any pictures and man-made morals. With most choices, actions and behaviours it is is not the act itself but the intention and quality that determine the level of truthfulness, ie it is a matter of energetic truth, taking into account all aspects and parties involved and not reducing them to being less like some moralistic ideals. For example, terms like ‘the right to live’ can be such a reduction as it doesn’t consider the spiritual dimension of the foetus and that it is making a choice as well when incarnating and or aborting.
Control comes in often not because the one being controlled is weaker, but because the one who controls knows the power of the other. Being controlled is a reflection that power is being held back. If a woman absolutely knows that the ownership of her body belongs to her, and take responsibility for this, what then would the reflection in the world become? This is a re-correction process that has been allowed to run wild for a long time, and it is the responsibility of every single woman to read these reflections and take the necessary steps back to truth.
The level of inequity and invasion we have already absorbed as normal and acceptable is more than highlighted when you draw the parallel with men’s reproductive health. We would never, ever dream of policing that, yet at some level we’ve collectively decided – men and women both – that it’s OK to do so with women. Even as a fairly enlightened person I was a little shocked at the level of normality I had accorded this invasion of women and their right to to act on their own authority… to some degree I am complicit in this situation arising.
Gyl thank you for this comprehensive account of the current state of play regarding abortion in much of the west. The degree of control over women’s bodies being sought is immense and while I agree there are all sorts of ill ideals and beliefs behind it, there feels to be something more at play – namely an attempt to keep women disempowered and small if not silent. To merit such efforts we must be pretty powerful. If we’re going to put a halt to such restrictions, now’s the time to step into that power.
Your blog also presents another great point – how we don’t seem to consider our responsibility when we do decide to bring a baby into this world. We look at the world, we see some totally crazy behaviour everywhere, increasingly so both in volume and intensity – but we are the ones that bring up these people. Every one of us gets born with parents, no exception. How responsible are we when we decide to have a baby just because we want/need, just because we believe that’s the right thing to do? Where I live, the decrease in the number of babies born has been recognized as a national problem for a while now, and again, women are being put under more pressure to reproduce. The deep lack of responsibility is getting exposed everywhere.
Just incredible we have these laws, newly passed, in 21st century. In one way it says it is a woman’s fault entirely if she falls pregnant against her will, yet she is not only not given a full right to make a decision about it herself but also punished for that. This equation is so lopsided it cannot stand. Getting punished does not equal taking responsibility.
Such a great article Gyl – I was deeply shocked to read the legal restrictions and manipulations that attempt to control a woman from being able to determine like you did, whether they possess within them the integrity and responsibility required to bring a child into the world in consideration of factors that only they can know rather than any blanket system or law. The abuse that abounds by those in power who wield it according to their own, or religious ideals and beliefs, is truly appalling… the responsibility should always be one’s own.
A powerful and much needed sharing Gyl. What I sense reading your words is how the guilt and the judgement that comes in, stops us from seeing the truth of what is revealed. In fact these impositions are just as irresponsible as anything anyone else could do. Reacting this way stops us from understanding the bigger picture, the responsibility we have as a human race not just to reproduce but to live in a way that ensures we co-create.
I’m reading this blog and continue to be amazed at the world we live in – not in a good way unfortunately, but in a way that it is difficult to comprehend the choices and decisions people make. What I am referring to are the law makers you write about. It seems women continue to be seen as the lesser gender, a group who needs to be controlled, no matter what country you come from. The only solution that I can see is for every single human being to make choices based on loving personal responsibility and the understanding that every choice we do make affects another.
Some scary policy changes being forecast, that are absolutely about trying to control women and their ability to connect to and feel what their lives and bodies need.
We think we’ve moved on from the time when women couldn’t vote or have a voice, but these policies show we are not treating women as equal.
I seriously cannot believe this ‘just recently, 4th of February 2017 – under a new law passed in the state of Arkansas, in the USA1, “A pregnant woman’s husband will have the power to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape”. Indeed how lost are we to allow such a thing.
I wonder how many women carry a secret shame from having had an abortion? It does not really matter if it is one woman or 100,000 women…if one woman is ashamed about having made the true choice, then it is an indictment on this society we have made for ourselves. The woman body is not a plaything for societal control, exercised through the imposition of shame and worthlessness. Yet that is what it has become. This article asks us all to question what we have allowed this world of ours to become, such that simple truth, and a woman’s autonomy over her body are made shameful and disgraceful.
This is what I love about these blogs that support topics like this to be discussed and all that holds humanity back to be exposed.
Great article Gyl – there is so much more at play here than what meets the eye. Why such an effort to stop abortion? Why attack and denigrate the woman in this way by forcing her to have an abortion against her will? Is that not worse than the rape itself? What is the message we send out to others with actions such as these? That a woman has no reign over her domain? That her body can be owned by another? That she is not allowed to take responsibility? All of this is a deliberate assault on the sacredness of a woman whose role is to truly nurture both herself and others so we are all able to arise back to our true expression of the love that we are. Thus, rather than being about abortion per se, this is actually about making sure we do not dare live the light of the Soul here on Earth. Much to discuss…
Liane once again you have read the energy aright. This is about making sure that women are kept down and subjugated and this has been happening ad nauseam for life times. But it doesn’t have to be this way.
We now have a reflection of a different way to live and we as women can relearn to live fully in our sacredness, which as you say is living the light of the Soul on Earth.